The Mugging of America

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@GaoLu said:
Thanks for clarifying. I apologize for any confusion my error caused.

High on my list is to come for a visit one of these days. Bill, do you drink coffee?

Whether I drink coffee is irrelevant to your potential visit unless your visit were specifically part of a plan to apologize unconditionally for the countless lies and other falsehoods you have posted about me and my CD identity - i.e. your numerous false allegations and insinuations that I have in the past and possibly still to-this-day continue to create and/or post under alias CD identities, lies and other falsehoods which this month have taken the form of your multiple references to "Siamese twins," of all people.

GaoLu · October 2018

@Bill_Coley said:

@GaoLu said:
Thanks for clarifying. I apologize for any confusion my error caused.

High on my list is to come for a visit one of these days. Bill, do you drink coffee?

Whether I drink coffee is irrelevant to your potential visit unless your visit were specifically part of a plan to apologize unconditionally for the countless lies and other falsehoods you have posted about me and my CD identity - i.e. your numerous false allegations and insinuations that I have in the past and possibly still to-this-day continue to create and/or post under alias CD identities, lies and other falsehoods which this month have taken the form of your multiple references to "Siamese twins," of all people.

I am sorry that you feel so badly about all that. A good name is better to be chosen than great riches.

I also appreciate your dilemma and truthfulness not wanting to get in a box saying whether or not you drink coffee or eat steak. Even such a simple thing could turn out to be really awkward.

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@GaoLu said:
I am sorry that you feel so badly about all that. A good name is better to be chosen than great riches.

I also appreciate your dilemma and truthfulness not wanting to get in a box saying whether or not you drink coffee or eat steak. Even such a simple thing could turn out to be really awkward.

The only thing "really awkward" about this matter is that for reasons known only to you, you have a desire to have coffee (and steak?) with one about whose CD identity you have lied pathologically for years, and continue to lie today.

Well, and then there are your references to Siamese Twins.

GaoLu · October 2018

Yes...? Thanks for sharing how you feel. Continue if you like.

[Public Note: Bill, I want to state clearly before all that you have not offended me and I have nothing I can think of for which I need you to apologize.]

GaoLu · October 2018

Please let me add something here before I get back to work. Bill if I have wounded your spirit by telling an untruth, I plead with you to show me with a quote what lie I told so I can apologize.

I know I have made unintentional errors such as saying Moline instead of East Moline and MN instead of IL. I regret those and probably other similar errors and I sincerely apologize.

I do think that my wife and those who know me well would vouch that neither they nor anyone else has ever yet diagnosed me as a pathological or any other kind of liar. I don't recall ever being called that by anyone before. Yet I hear you saying so and I take that seriously.

I cannot say I have never lied. That time at 16 when I came in after midnight and told my parents it was before, and now that I think of it, some other times come to mind. The time I ruined a set of my dad's car tires all in one night and told him I didn't know how it happened. God knows and has forgiven me and still I confess those to you all.

Again, please show me quotes where I have stated as fact something that is not fact, something we all know to be untruth, a lie I have told, and I shall surely do all I can to make it right.

GaoLu · October 2018

OK. One more thing. I actually recall my sisters and I one day ran around yelling, "Liar, liar, pants on fire, hanging from a telephone wire." We weren't really saying that to each other, it just had a naughty ring to it. My mom then made that a teaching moment from the Bible. But that should be for another thread.

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@GaoLu said:
Please let me add something here before I get back to work. Bill if I have wounded your spirit by telling an untruth, I plead with you to show me with a quote what lie I told so I can apologize. ...

Again, please show me quotes where I have stated as fact something that is not fact, something we all know to be untruth, a lie I have told, and I shall surely do all I can to make it right.

This is not a debatable subject, Gao Lu.

EACH AND EVERY TIME you stated, hinted, suggested, intimated, insinuated, or in ANY OTHER WAY raised, considered, or gave even passing credence to the possibility that I had EVER created and/or posted under a CD alias identity, both at its root and in every one of its outgrowths, your post was false and baseless. EVERY time.

So, ask yourself this question: In one or more of your posts, have you EVER stated, hinted, suggested, intimated, insinuated, or in ANY OTHER WAY raised, considered, or gave even passing credence to the possibility that I have EVER created and/or posted under a CD alias identity? If your answer is yes, then you have have the evidence for which you ask. If your answer to that question is no, then you have added another lie to your collection.

GaoLu · October 2018

Oh. I see you don't have a single quote. So you are basically admitting that you made false accusations. Then you to twist everything up into complete confusion and call that mess a lie (and you are right). I accept that. Nothing new there. Same ol' Bill for a decade now. No deceit in knowing who you are. If you choose to apologize, I will accept that. If not, then I won't lose a wink over it.

reformed · October 2018

@Bill_Coley said:

@GaoLu said:
Please let me add something here before I get back to work. Bill if I have wounded your spirit by telling an untruth, I plead with you to show me with a quote what lie I told so I can apologize. ...

Again, please show me quotes where I have stated as fact something that is not fact, something we all know to be untruth, a lie I have told, and I shall surely do all I can to make it right.

This is not a debatable subject, Gao Lu.

EACH AND EVERY TIME you stated, hinted, suggested, intimated, insinuated, or in ANY OTHER WAY raised, considered, or gave even passing credence to the possibility that I had EVER created and/or posted under a CD alias identity, both at its root and in every one of its outgrowths, your post was false and baseless. EVERY time.

So, ask yourself this question: In one or more of your posts, have you EVER stated, hinted, suggested, intimated, insinuated, or in ANY OTHER WAY raised, considered, or gave even passing credence to the possibility that I have EVER created and/or posted under a CD alias identity? If your answer is yes, then you have have the evidence for which you ask. If your answer to that question is no, then you have added another lie to your collection.

Interesting Bill. So does that make you a liar everytime you accuse me of being David Taylor?

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@GaoLu said:
Oh. I see you don't have a single quote. So you are basically admitting that you made false accusations. Then you to twist everything up into complete confusion and call that mess a lie (and you are right). I accept that. Nothing new there. Same ol' Bill for a decade now. No deceit in knowing who you are. If you choose to apologize, I will accept that. If not, then I won't lose a wink over it.

SINCE AUGUST 9, 2018:

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@reformed said:

Interesting Bill. So does that make you a liar everytime you accuse me of being David Taylor?

Nice diversion, reformed.

I own and do not deny or seek to diminish my claim about your identity. In fact, as I'm confident you remember, in at least THIS POST, THIS POST, and THIS POST I offered to publish in a public CD thread the PMs in which I presented the VERY specific evidence upon which I based my claim about your identity. For reasons unknown to me, you chose not to respond to - not even to mention - any of those invitations in your replies. I hereby repeat my offer.

Am I a liar? No. Want evidence? This is a rabbit hole in which I refuse to get lost, but it's worth the time to give careful linguistic attention to the construction of your reply here.

p.s. It went without saying in my previous post, but perhaps I should have cited the fact that you have openly embraced Gao Lu's lie about my creating and/or posting under an alias ID. I don't call you a liar, however, because in this matter, to me you have come across as more of an acolyte than a leader.

reformed · October 2018

@Bill_Coley said:

@reformed said:

Interesting Bill. So does that make you a liar everytime you accuse me of being David Taylor?

Nice diversion, reformed.

I own and do not deny or seek to diminish my claim about your identity. In fact, as I'm confident you remember, in at least THIS POST, THIS POST, and THIS POST I offered to publish in a public CD thread the PMs in which I presented the VERY specific evidence upon which I based my claim about your identity. For reasons unknown to me, you chose not to respond to - not even to mention - any of those invitations in your replies. I hereby repeat my offer.

Am I a liar? No. Want evidence? This is a rabbit hole in which I refuse to get lost, but it's worth the time to give careful linguistic attention to the construction of your reply here.

p.s. It went without saying in my previous post, but perhaps I should have cited the fact that you have openly embraced Gao Lu's lie about my creating and/or posting under an alias ID. I don't call you a liar, however, because in this matter, to me you have come across as more of an acolyte than a leader.

Yes, you are a liar by your own standard. Of course, you are the king on this forum of double standards.

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@reformed said:

Yes, you are a liar by your own standard. Of course, you are the king on this forum of double standards.

And YET AGAIN (for the fourth time?) you refuse to mention, let alone engage, my offer to publish in a public CD thread the PMs I sent you which offered VERY specific evidence that supported my claim about your identity, reformed.

Could it have been an accidental oversight on your part, the first time you didn't mention my invitation? Sure. And the second time you failed to mention my invitation, could THAT have been an oversight too? Possibly, but the chances are much lower. What about the third time and fourth times you failed to mention my invitation to publish those PMs in a public thread so that all CD readers could assess the evidence I contend supports my claim about your identity: More oversights? No. Those were clearly intentional choices on your part, which means it's most likely that ALL of your failures to mention my invitations were intentional acts.

If my claim was untrue, then the PMs I sent you couldn't possibly have contained convincing evidence, could they? Then why would you not want other CD readers to see them?

Remember the times you and Gao Lu made what I contended were false allegations about me or my posts? What was my approach to your claims? I asked you to quote me, not accuse me. Why did I do that? Because I knew your claims were false. What happened? Neither of you ever quoted me... because you couldn't... because your claims were false. My confidence that your claims were false led me to engage your claims directly and publicly. You, however, on four occasions now have chosen NOT to respond directly and publicly to - have chosen not even to mention - my invitation to publish those PMs. Why?

For the fifth time, I repeat my invitation.

reformed · October 2018

@Bill_Coley said:

@reformed said:

Yes, you are a liar by your own standard. Of course, you are the king on this forum of double standards.

And YET AGAIN (for the fourth time?) you refuse to mention, let alone engage, my offer to publish in a public CD thread the PMs I sent you which offered VERY specific evidence that supported my claim about your identity, reformed.

Could it have been an accidental oversight on your part, the first time you didn't mention my invitation? Sure. And the second time you failed to mention my invitation, could THAT have been an oversight too? Possibly, but the chances are much lower. What about the third time and fourth times you failed to mention my invitation to publish those PMs in a public thread so that all CD readers could assess the evidence I contend supports my claim about your identity: More oversights? No. Those were clearly intentional choices on your part, which means it's most likely that ALL of your failures to mention my invitations were intentional acts.

If my claim was untrue, then the PMs I sent you couldn't possibly have contained convincing evidence, could they? Then why would you not want other CD readers to see them?

Remember the times you and Gao Lu made what I contended were false allegations about me or my posts? What was my approach to your claims? I asked you to quote me, not accuse me. Why did I do that? Because I knew your claims were false. What happened? Neither of you ever quoted me... because you couldn't... because your claims were false. My confidence that your claims were false led me to engage your claims directly and publicly. You, however, on four occasions now have chosen NOT to respond directly and publicly to - have chosen not even to mention - my invitation to publish those PMs. Why?

For the fifth time, I repeat my invitation.

Yeah yeah yeah, you say we use similar wording, you say we both have youtube blocked (lot's of people do). You say we both are rude and call people names and belittle (I guess that means you are David Taylor too and so is @C_M_ ) You say that we have similar theology well so do THOUSANDS of other people.

So just admit that you have a double standard and move on. It's ok you have a double standard, embrace it. Unless you just can't stand being a hypocrite then this is just hilarious for those of us watching you and your meltdowns.

I have talked with members of the forum who apparently know David outside of this setting and they know that I am not him.

On August 7th I sent David's username @dct112685 a PM asking why you think I am him but I never heard anything back.

Bill you are a bully. You are full of nonsense, not to mention terrible theology. Just go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@reformed said:
Yeah yeah yeah, you say we use similar wording, you say we both have youtube blocked (lot's of people do). You say we both are rude and call people names and belittle (I guess that means you are David Taylor too and so is @C_M_ ) You say that we have similar theology well so do THOUSANDS of other people.

So just admit that you have a double standard and move on. It's ok you have a double standard, embrace it. Unless you just can't stand being a hypocrite then this is just hilarious for those of us watching you and your meltdowns.

I have talked with members of the forum who apparently know David outside of this setting and they know that I am not him.

On August 7th I sent David's username @dct112685 a PM asking why you think I am him but I never heard anything back.

Bill you are a bully. You are full of nonsense, not to mention terrible theology. Just go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

And for the FIFTH time you refuse to engage or even mention my invitation to publish in a public CD thread the PMs I sent you that contained VERY specific evidence that I contended supports my claim about your identity. Yes, your reply offers your summary of my contention (for the record, I think the evidence in the PMs I sent you says MUCH more than your summary suggests) but for the fifth consecutive time, in reply to my invitation to post those PMs for everyone's review, you choose not to mention, let alone directly respond, to it.

Case closed.

C Mc · October 2018

Now, that the case is closed, what's the latest tactic how America is being mugged? CM

reformed · October 2018

@C_M_ said:
Now, that the case is closed, what's the latest tactic how America is being mugged? CM

I don't think America is being "mugged" as you put it. Mugged means attacked and robbed. How is America being attacked and robbed?

C Mc · October 2018

@reformed said:

@C_M_ said:
Now, that the case is closed, what's the latest tactic how America is being mugged? CM

I don't think America is being "mugged" as you put it. Mugged means attacked and robbed. How is America being attacked and robbed?

America is being mugged. Please read earlier posts. CM

C Mc · October 2018

@C_M_ said:

@reformed said:

@C_M_ said:
Now, that the case is closed, what's the latest tactic how America is being mugged? CM

I don't think America is being "mugged" as you put it. Mugged means attacked and robbed. How is America being attacked and robbed?

America is being mugged. Please read earlier posts. CM

Quick example the Republican trying to take away people's insurance for pre-conditions. Republicans are lying about it in trying to same it. This is a mugging of Americans. CM

GaoLu · October 2018

@Bill_Coley said:

@GaoLu said:
Oh. I see you don't have a single quote. So you are basically admitting that you made false accusations. Then you to twist everything up into complete confusion and call that mess a lie (and you are right). I accept that. Nothing new there. Same ol' Bill for a decade now. No deceit in knowing who you are. If you choose to apologize, I will accept that. If not, then I won't lose a wink over it.

SINCE AUGUST 9, 2018:

Aug 9
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7354/#Comment_7354
Aug 12
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7471/#Comment_7471
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7478/#Comment_7478
Aug 13
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7534/#Comment_7534
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7539/#Comment_7539
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7546/#Comment_7546
Aug 14
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7559/#Comment_7559
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7576/#Comment_7576
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7592/#Comment_7592
Aug 15
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7611/#Comment_7611
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7598/#Comment_7598
Aug 16
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7618/#Comment_7618
Aug 18
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7657/#Comment_7657
Aug 23
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/7807/#Comment_7807
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https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/8124/#Comment_8124
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https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/8259/#Comment_8259
Sep 13
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/8432/#Comment_8432
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/8385/#Comment_8385
Sep 14
https://christiandiscourse.net/discussion/comment/8482/#Comment_8482
Sep 28
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/8907/#Comment_8907
Oct 4
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/9261/#Comment_9261
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/9365/#Comment_9365
https://christiandiscourse.net/discussion/comment/9329/#Comment_9329
Oct 22
https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/10316/#Comment_10316

Yes, you provided a lot of links above, and I can't imagine how long that took you, yet as everyone can see from the evidence, there is not one instance of lying. I can't help but think you are behaving like a cornered critter here who lashing out in self-defense. Sad. Amazing how guilt can make a man act.
Bill, you are apparently caught in your own web of deceit. I offer that you own up, confess, repent and apologize if you can--if the time is right for you. We won't reject you. I am sorry it turned out this way, but there are consequences for choices.
Regarding David Taylor, I also, briefly wondered if David came back with another name as Reformed. I even wondered if you had added another persona and taken on David. I quickly discarded that crazy idea. What makes a difference between your facts and mine is that I happen to have remained friends with David. We actually talked on the phone (well--whatever you call an internet call) quite recently. David is a good man. We have prayed together and pray for each other (I long for that kind of relationship with you--we could get there). David isn't like you say. From our discussion, it was very clear that he isn't masquerading as Reformed.
I suspect all this exposure is happening for a reason Bill. Some of us here are merciful. We will walk you through this, if you want.

[Edit] It just occurred to me --C_M_says he is not a US citizen (and seems to hail from questionable locales elsewhere) What if...just what if...he is from Siam! You know, Siamese twins. That would be Thailand today. I get there now and then. I wouldn't have to go all the way to East Moline, Illinois, and we could all meet up that way

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@GaoLu said:

Yes, you provided a lot of links above, and I can't imagine how long that took you, yet as everyone can see from the evidence, there is not one instance of lying. I can't help but think you are behaving like a cornered critter here who lashing out in self-defense. Sad. Amazing how guilt can make a man act.

This might be "sad," but it's also not difficult.

In the post that prompted your bluster about my having admitted to making "false accusations," I said this: (emphasis added)

"EACH AND EVERY TIME you stated, hinted, suggested, intimated, insinuated, or in ANY OTHER WAY raised, considered, or gave even passing credence to the possibility that I had EVER created and/or posted under a CD alias identity, both at its root and in every one of its outgrowths, your post was false and baseless. EVERY time.

"So, ask yourself this question: In one or more of your posts, have you EVER stated, hinted, suggested, intimated, insinuated, or in ANY OTHER WAY raised, considered, or gave even passing credence to the possibility that I have EVER created and/or posted under a CD alias identity? If your answer is yes, then you have have the evidence for which you ask. If your answer to that question is no, then you have added another lie to your collection."

EVERY ONE of the links I provided contains at least one example of your stating, hinting, suggesting, intimating, insinuating, or in SOME OTHER WAY raising, considering, or giving even passing credence to the possibility that I have EVER created and/or posted under a CD alias identity.

Regarding David Taylor, I also, briefly wondered if David came back with another name as Reformed. I even wondered if you had added another persona and taken on David. I quickly discarded that crazy idea. What makes a difference between your facts and mine is that I happen to have remained friends with David. We actually talked on the phone (well--whatever you call an internet call) quite recently. David is a good man. We have prayed together and pray for each other (I long for that kind of relationship with you--we could get there). David isn't like you say. From our discussion, it was very clear that he isn't masquerading as Reformed.

I don't accept your testimony here as true. Or, to quote you from another context: "You do not come across as authentic or honest."

reformed · October 2018

@C_M_ said:

@C_M_ said:

@reformed said:

@C_M_ said:
Now, that the case is closed, what's the latest tactic how America is being mugged? CM

I don't think America is being "mugged" as you put it. Mugged means attacked and robbed. How is America being attacked and robbed?

America is being mugged. Please read earlier posts. CM

Quick example the Republican trying to take away people's insurance for pre-conditions. Republicans are lying about it in trying to same it. This is a mugging of Americans. CM

This, of course, isn't actually happening. Quite the opposite. Please get informed.

GaoLu · October 2018

@Bill_Coley said:

EVERY ONE of the links I provided contains at least one example of your stating, hinting, suggesting, intimating, insinuating, or in SOME OTHER WAY raising, considering, or giving even passing credence to the possibility that I have EVER created and/or posted under a CD alias identity.

I have offered no judgment or accusation because I can't prove anything (not even with an internet link) about your dishonesty with possible multiple personas on these forums. If you want to twist that up into lying--you do so on your own dime--I have no interest in your grand, self-proclaimed "debate skills." This site is about Christian Discourse. It is not a display case for Bill's Bologna Debate tactics.

I have certainly raised a very valid and well-warranted concern. I make no accusation, but on occasion have and will point to evidence that continues to be smeared all over the forums. In the past, when I did so, some multiple characters disappeared and odd behavior was greatly abated for a while. That is all I really hope for. I am drawing awareness to that. If you actually do have multiple personas, that is fine too. You can do whatever, it's a free country.

Furthermore, to borrow from Shakespeare, I think you protest too loudly.

Let me take this a step further:

Originally I brought up the possibility of your faking other names and trolling yourself not so much because I thought you were using multiple personas, but because it seemed that there were amazingly curiosities of style and writing and trolling occurring. I thought to bring up the possibility as a sort of light-hearted way to point out contrasts and similarities of ideas appearing in threads. I didn't really think with confidence, then, that multiple personas were going on--though I wondered.

But, Oh! The reaction was like an emotional nuclear bomb! Threads appeared filled with violent anger and threats. Appeals were made to nonexistent moderators. PM's appeared including profanity. I mean what a deal! DRAMA! Remember, Bill, that one really long thread, mostly by you, where your behavior was....just mind-boggling? Remember how a couple years (?) later, C_M_ tried almost the same thing here at a 5% scale, but it flopped badly and quit?

So, without changing my approach, without making accusations, but by tossing out a doggie biscuit now and then, the game goes on with your cycles of malarial-type fever. I am not sure if I am guilty of poking you (and any adjoined Siamese twins) with a stick for the amusing reaction, or if there are mental health issues, or if it is really true and warranted. I have been down this fake-persona pike years ago on another forum when one person really did use multiple personas and admitted it. I learned a lot watching that. You fit the recipe 100%. But I don't really know and don't care that much. However, the possibility is real enough that I personally find it worth revisiting. If there is really nothing to it, I can't imagine your reaction would be so violent. But who knows? I do not.

reformed · October 2018

@Bill_Coley said:

Regarding David Taylor, I also, briefly wondered if David came back with another name as Reformed. I even wondered if you had added another persona and taken on David. I quickly discarded that crazy idea. What makes a difference between your facts and mine is that I happen to have remained friends with David. We actually talked on the phone (well--whatever you call an internet call) quite recently. David is a good man. We have prayed together and pray for each other (I long for that kind of relationship with you--we could get there). David isn't like you say. From our discussion, it was very clear that he isn't masquerading as Reformed.

I don't accept your testimony here as true. Or, to quote you from another context: "You do not come across as authentic or honest."

Apparently, everyone else lies, except Bill...

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@GaoLu said:

I have offered no judgment or accusation because I can't prove anything (not even with an internet link) about your dishonesty with possible multiple personas on these forums. If you want to twist that up into lying--you do so on your own dime--I have no interest in your grand, self-proclaimed "debate skills." This site is about Christian Discourse, not Bill's Bologna Debate tactics.

I have certainly raised a very valid and well-warranted concern. I make no accusation, but on occasion have and will point to evidence that continues to be smeared all over the forums. In the past, when I did so, some multiple characters disappeared or at least the odd behavior was greatly abated for a while. That is all I really hope for. I am drawing awareness to that. If you actually do have multiple personas, that is fine too. Yyou can do whatever, it's a free country.

Furthermore, to borrow from Shakespeare, I think you protest too loudly.

TRANSLATION: On the matter of my CD identity, Gao Lu, you have been, currently are, and plan to continue to be a pathological liar.

GaoLu · October 2018

Bill, may I ask you a question? I promise not to pathologically lie. I hope you won't.

Do you think kids ages 3 to 12 are your ''peer group?''

Bill_Coley · October 2018

@GaoLu said:
Bill, may I ask you a question? I promise not to pathologically lie. I hope you won't.

Do you think kids ages 3 to 12 are your ''peer group?''

Yes! And after all these years in ministry I still find great satisfaction in telling people about the joy and silliness behind that answer.

But in our exchange, my "peer group" is not at issue; your pathological lying is. Hence, your question serves principally to change the subject, which is an outcome in which I'm not willing to participate.

GaoLu · October 2018

Do you think kids ages 3 to 12 are your ''peer group?''

Everyone here should know that is how you self-identify.

Keeping your reassertion of that in mind at about age 61....

Is there more to address to your personal truth that you hold that I am a pathological liar? I surely don't want to change your focus if that remains important to you.

[C_M_ you should probably stay out of this]

C Mc · October 2018

Please, continue your personal conversation, if the CD rules permits it. However, I would appreciate if you do so, without hijacking this thread. May I interest you in doing it elsewhere? CM

C Mc · October 2018

Back to the topic at hand: Why is that America seems to love taking from its citizens? I speak mainly of the underhanded ways of robbing people of their right to vote? Voters Depression, if not oppression! People of color and nonChristians are really welcome in America? This mugging needs to stop. America spreading democracy around the world and robbing her own people blind; an enigma of contradiction! CM

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