Coronavirus: Pandemic, Hype, or "Much-to-do about nothing"?

That is what I've been pointing out .... here, people seriously ill who then died have been tested (by the way, with a test that has not been validated and has shown to produce a high percentage of "false positive" results) and tested positive and been counted in the numbers of "Corona dead". Postmortems done in Hamburg now have shown that of about 50 dead not one actually died from the virus. The mortality rate related to the virus is close to the rate with annually experienced flu and influenza.

The infection rates have constantly been decreasing in Germany over the last weeks ... and now the government affiliated Robert-Koch-Institute reports - even with the government used "method of counting" - with 0,7 a number that is below the number (1,0 / 0.9) when the government would lift the lockdown .... ha,ha ... the government announced just two days ago a continuation of lockdown with only a few exceptions ... remember "liar, liar, pants on fire" ? Our chancellor boldly proclaimed that the lockdown must continue until the (Bill Gates / WHO ?) virus vaccine has been developed and administered to the population.

In case, someone doesn't understand ... the population for NO MEDICAL REASON AT ALL is being submitted to lengthy and severe cuts of their rights and liberties ... something that supposedly happens only yin other places with very dangerous dictator regimes.

Exactly, there is no medical reason or logic for these shutdowns. It is insanity. And it is not quarantine. With quarantine you keep sick people locked in. This is imprisonments of the entire world. The virus is not NEARLY as bad as they are trying to make it out to be.

I already did .... and I will add a simple truths of life => older people are more susceptible to death due to their often weaker immune system, thus many older people die during winter season than summer season, because any cold already could cause problems with a previous condition, etc.

In addition, as has been shown by some medical professors that the current rush for artificial respiration by tubes etc. with patients tested positive for corona virus is actually in many cases counter productive and causes damages to the lungs and in quite a number of cases the death of the patient where a more considerate and gentle approach would have been sufficient and the right thing to do.. Unfortunately, the current politically propagated panic and hysteria in the mainstream media causes more deaths than the virus.

well, IF that was the first priority, then one would normally follow commonly known steps on how to deal with virus related respiratory epidemics ... which occur every year and which are overcome every year by use of natural human immune system and in the rather few more severe cases by medical steps. If that was the first priority, why would one take a totally counterproductive step such as a shutdown and thereby PROLONG the otherwise relatively short cycle of such an epidemic virus infection wave?? why prohibit the healthy and unaffected healthy 97-99% of the population from living their lives normally ?? Why lock down (more accurately "lock up" !) healthy people indoors and in their houses when the most effective means to counter and treat respiratory problems is by being outdoors and getting some sunshine??

There was a mosquito sitting on the window and caused the house occupant trouble. So he took a hammer and killed the fly .... and the damage of an expensive window did not really matter, because he thought the mosquito caused danger was all worth it.

Some would call such procedure stupidity due to ignorance ... and if the ignorance was caused by purposely false propaganda about mosquito danger, it would not make it any better.

Oh, no .... the official numbers of the German government associated Robert-Koch-Institute (which has been instrumental in providing figures and suggestions to the cabinet of chancellor A. Merkel ) show that the lockdown starting on March 23 has had NOTHING !!!! to do with a reduction of the infection rate index ... already before the lockdown, the number was below 1 !!!

Source: Robert-Koch-Institut, 15. April 2020; Epidemiologisches Bulletin 17/20

As is obvious, the virus wave had its peak in early March, and yet -- even though the RKI already had the numbers of the time then -- they propagated panic and hysteria by claiming Germany could have up to 300000 (at best) and up to 1,5 million (at worst) corona deaths. Such panic is totally irressponsible ... and because the persons responsible for proclaiming such irrational panic are not stupid, one would have to consider that they acted with full knowledge of their falsehood and on purpose caused th economic crash and erosion of people's rights and liberties.

And yet, Merkel announces boldly that now, after 4 weeks of lockdown, the measures taken by her and the presidents of the different German states have finally brought the figure down to 1, but that this only a small step and we need to keep up the restrictions much longer until a vaccine can be administered. Her talk is poison and full of falsehood and deception ... as even the numbers published in a graph by her advisors at the RKI prove!!! In plain speech: The lockdown was NOT Necessary (since the figure was already below 1 three days before), and it had no effect (because the figure did not go lower).

The whole lockdown has had NO influence on the thiss supposedly so important rate of infection, because that figure was already at the level below 1 BEFORE the lockdown started, and it has of course not really changed since ... No wonder, that the politicians here brewing over their lockdown are becoming nervous and feverishly are trying to find a way to lie their way out of their lies.

Some more facts on Corona from an Update as of today, April 18, 2020

April 18, 2020

Medical updates

• A new serological study by Stanford University found antibodies in 50 to 85 times more people than previously thought in Santa Clara County, California, resulting in a Covid-19 lethality of 0.12% to 0.2% or even lower (i.e. in the range of severe influenza).
• In a new analysis, the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) at the University of Oxford argues that the lethality of covid19 (IFR) is between 0.1% and 0.36% (i.e. in the range of a severe influenza). In people over 70 years of age with no serious preconditions, the mortality rate is expected to be less than 1%. For people over 80 years of age, the mortality rate is between 3% and 15%, depending on whether deaths so far were mainly with or from by the disease. In contrast to influenza, child mortality is close to zero. With regard to the high mortality rate in Northern Italy, the research group points out that Italy has the highest antibiotic resistance in Europe. In fact, data from the Italian authorities show that around 80% of the deceased were treated with antibiotics, indicating bacterial superinfections.
• The Finnish epidemiology professor Mikko Paunio from the University of Helsinki has evaluated several international studies in a working paper and comes to a Covid19 lethality (IFR) of 0.1% or less (i.e. in the area of seasonal influenza). According to Paunio, the impression of a higher lethality was created because the virus spread very quickly, especially in multi-generation households in Italy and Spain, but also in cities like New York. The „lockdown“ measures had come too late and had not been effective.
• UK: London’s temporary Nightingale hospital has remained largely empty, with just 19 patients being treated at the facility over the Easter weekend. London’s established hospitals have doubled their ICU capacity, and are so far coping with surge.
• In Canada, 31 people died in an old people’s home after „almost all nursing staff had left the facility in a hurry for fear of the corona virus spreading. Health authorities found the people in the home in Dorval near Montreal only days later – many of the survivors were dehydrated, malnourished and apathetic.“
• A Scottish doctor who also looks after nursing homes writes: „What was the government strategy for nursing homes? The actions taken so far have made the situation much, much worse.“
• In Switzerland, despite Covid19, total mortality in the first quarter of 2020 (until 5th April) was in the medium normal range. One reason for this could be the mild flu season due to the mild winter, which has now been partially „offset“ by Covid19.
• According to a report from April 14, Swiss hospitals and even intensive care units continue to be very under-utilized. This again raises the question of where and how exactly the test-positive deaths (average age 84) in Switzerland actually occur.
• The President of the German Hospital Association has sounded the alarm: more than 50 percent of all planned operations throughout Germany have been cancelled, and the „operations backlog“ is running into thousands. In addition, 30 to 40% fewer patients with heart attacks and strokes are treated because they no longer dare to go to the hospitals for fear of corona. There were 150,000 free hospital beds and 10,000 free intensive care beds nationwide. In Berlin, only 68 intensive care beds are occupied by corona patients, the emergency clinic with 1000 beds is currently not in use.
• New data of German authorities show that in Germany, too, the reproduction rate of Covid19 had already fallen below the critical value of 1 before the lockdown. General hygiene measures were therefore sufficient to prevent the exponential spread. This had already been shown by the ETH Zurich for Switzerland as well.
• On a French aircraft carrier 1081 soldiers tested positive. So far, almost 50% of them remained symptom-free and about 50% showed mild symptoms. 24 soldiers were hospitalized, one of them is in intensive care (previous illnesses unknown).
• Leading German virologist Christian Drosten thinks it is possible that some people have already built up an effective so-called background immunity against the new corona virus through contact with normal common cold corona viruses.
• Klaus Püschsel, a forensic doctor from Hamburg who has already examined numerous test positive deceased, explains in a new article: „The numbers do not justify the fear of corona“. His findings: „Corona is a relatively harmless viral disease. We have to deal with the fact that Corona is a normal infection and we have to learn to live with it without quarantine“. The fatalities he examined would all have had such serious pre-existing conditions that, „even if that sounds harsh, they would all have died in the course of this year. Püschel becomes even clearer: „The time of the virologists is over. We should now ask others what is the right thing to do in the corona crisis, for example the intensive care doctors.“
• A review on Medscape shows that common cold infections caused by coronaviruses typically decline at the end of April – with or without a lockdown.
• Swiss magazine Infosperber writes: „Fewer corona cases? Just test less!“ The daily number of „new cases“ reported says little about the state of the epidemic. It was reckless to trigger fear with the curve of cumulative test-positive deaths, they argue.
• OffGuardian: Eight more experts questioning the coronavirus panic.
• Video: Why lockdowns are the wrong policy – Swedish expert Prof. Johan Giesecke Swedish epidemiology professor Johan Giesecke speaks of a „tsunami of a mild disease“ and considers lockdowns to be counterproductive. The most important thing, he says, is to provide efficient protection for risk groups, especially nursing homes.

Source: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/#latest

and some more on various virus waves and their seasonal occurrence ... here an example from 2019 (update from July 30, 2019):

As one can easily see, the viruses of the corona type occur between December and April ... in other words, by now the corona related pandemic is basically over ... why? very simple => the temperatures are warmer and people go outside to enjoy fresh air and sunshine thereby also strengthening their natural immune system.

All the lockdown / shutdown measures taken are totally counterproductive in regards to the virus infections aspects. Also, no vaccine needed next fall since it is based on a past virus and the virus next season will of course again be a mutation and thus new.

Question is: Want to employ data and common sense and human experience of generation upon generation, or want to believe politicians and their "court virologists" and applaud them for being locking you up, taking away your liberty and human rights?

Because viruses don't discriminate.

An artful dodge of the question I posed to you, which I'm confident you know was not in any way premised on the possibility that viruses "discriminate." The issue raised by the statistics to which I linked was whether COVID-19 disproportionately affects people of color - specifically African Americans, in the numbers I referenced - and hence adds an element of race into the discussion. That element is NOT discrimination, but demography.

CMc asked what explains the "high number of death among "Black" and "Brown" people in America's large cities," a question I read to refer to demographics not racial discrimination. Your response was to contend that "Coronavirus treats everyone equally." The data make clear that people of color are suffering disproportionately from the virus. Discrimination doesn't explain that, of course. But what does?

So then, what do these statistics indicate (if they are even based on correct data rather than some model based estimation)? Do these figures indicate that people of a certain racial background are genetically more susceptible to catch this virus? Do the figures indicate something about social or living standard differences that would be responsible for the different %?

As far as I understand @reformed's comment, he simply stated that a virus does not make such distinctions ....it does not select but this bug can be caught by and infect anyone.

More liberal conspiracy theories. Good grief.

If the African American community is being impacted more, which I don't agree with, it is because they typically live in closer communities in more densely populated areas. Therefore, greater chance of passing the virus. They also, due to economics, typically have poorer health conditions.