Is Jesus God?

Thanks for the generous assessment, CM.

As for the prospects of anyone's efforts to proselytize anyone else in these forums, I think it's fair to say they're not at all good. At the moment I can't recall posts from this edition of CD or its predecessor whose content suggested their authors were open to or would have even given an instant's consideration to moving their religious/faith community affiliation. That's just not why most people visit forums such as these.

I've been a baptized Jesus follower for 53 years, the most recent 39 of which while serving as a local church pastor. By now I have either found my spiritual home or conned myself into believing I have. In either case, when it comes to my affiliation, I'm not leaving home, just as, I'm confident, neither are you nor any of our regular or occasional posters.

@Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus ... why do you base your beliefs about Jesus on the false ideas of Jewish religious leaders,who were the enemies of Christ???

Primary basis for my faith belief in יהוה Lord Jesus is the rich man's tomb in Jerusalem not having the dead body of Jesus (while did have burial cloth per John 20:5). Secondary is what Jesus said about Himself: e.g. Priestly prayer in John 17 includes:

And now, Father, you glorify me at your side with the glory that I had at your side before the world existed. (John 17:5 LEB)

“Father, those whom you have given to me—I want that those also may be with me where I am, in order that they may see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world. (John 17:24 LEB)

Also Jesus described Jewish religious leaders not loving אלהים God most of all so would not believe Jesus in John 8:39-59 => They answered and said to him, “Abraham is our father!” Jesus said to them, “If you are children of Abraham, do the deeds of Abraham! But now you are seeking to kill me, a man who spoke to you the truth which I heard from אלהים God. This Abraham did not do. You are doing the deeds of your father!” They said to him, “We were not born from sexual immorality! We have one father, אלהים God!” Jesus said to them, “If אלהים God were your father, you would love me, for I have come forth from אלהים God and have come. For I have not come from myself, but that one sent me. Why do you not understand my way of speaking? Because you are not able to listen to my message. You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father! That one was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand firm in the truth, because truth is not in him. Whenever he speaks the lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I am telling the truth, you do not believe me. Who among you convicts me concerning sin? If I am telling the truth, why do you not believe me? The one who is from אלהים God listens to the words of אלהים God. Because of this you do not listen—because you are not of אלהים God.” The Jews answered and said to him, “Do we not correctly say that you are a Samaritan and have a demon?” Jesus replied, “I do not have a demon, but I honor my Father, and you dishonor me! But I do not seek my own glory. There is one who seeks and judges! Truly, truly I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never experience death forever.” The Jews said to him, “Now we know that you have a demon! Abraham and the prophets died, and you say, ‘If anyone keeps my word, he will never taste death forever.’ You are not greater than our father Abraham who died, are you? And the prophets died! Who do you make yourself to be?” Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. The one who glorifies me is my Father, about whom you say, ‘He is our אלהים God.’ And you have not known him, but I know him. And if I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you! But I know him and I keep his word. Abraham your father rejoiced that he would see my day, and he saw it and was glad.” So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was, I am!” Then they picked up stones in order to throw them at him. But Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple courts.

Simple test of a prophet speaking for יהוה Lord אלהים God is 100% accuracy. Jesus predicted crucifixion death and resurrection on the third day:

Matthew 1613-23 LEB => Now when Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he began asking his disciples, saying, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, Some say John the Baptist, but others Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” And Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living אלהים God!” And Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overpower it! I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you release on earth will be released in heaven.” Then he commanded the disciples that they should tell no one that he was the Christ. From that time on Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised on the third day. And Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him, saying, אלהים God forbid, יהוה Lord! This will never happen to you!” But he turned around and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a cause for stumbling to me, because you are not intent on the things of אלהים God, but the things of people!”

Matthew 17:22-23 LEB => Now as they were gathering in Galilee, Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men, and they will kill him, and on the third day he will be raised.” And they were extremely distressed.

Matthew 20:17-19 LEB => And as Jesus was going up to Jerusalem, he took the twelve disciples by themselves and said to them on the way, “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be handed over to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn him to death, and will hand him over to the Gentiles to mock him and flog him and crucify him, and on the third day he will be raised.”

Luke 11:29-32 LEB => And as the crowds were increasing, he began to say, “This generation is an evil generation! It demands a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah! For just as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also the Son of Man will be to this generation. The queen of the south will rise up at the judgment with the people of this generation and condemn them, because she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and behold, something* greater than Solomon is here! The people of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the proclamation of Jonah, and behold, something* greater than Jonah is here! (* Here “something” is supplied in the translation because the adjective is neuter gender)

Jewish religious leaders are a sad warning and reminder to guard my heart to Love אלהים God with all of me in all life domains: emotional (heart), mind (mental), soul (social), strength (physical), and worship (spiritual), which can be summed up: Be Holy as אלהים God is Holy. Jewish religious leaders had spent years in study, which included memorizing the Books of Moses (Torah is basis for written law) plus Jewish oral traditions. Matthew 23 has Woes from אלהים God describing scribes and Pharisees. Daily repetition of The Shema had become vain as scribes and Pharisees chose to love something more than אלהים God. Our spiritual adversary, the father of lies, always wants to disrupt loving אלהים God most of all.

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Psalm 19:1-14 LEB => The heavens are telling the glory of אל God, and the firmament proclaims the work of his hands. Every day they pour forth speech, and every night they tell knowledge. There is no speech and there are no words; their sound is inaudible. Yet in all the world their line goes out, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has pitched a tent for the sun, and it is like a bridegroom who comes out of his bridal chamber. It is glad like a strong man to run its course. Its rising is from one end of the heavens and its circuit to the other end of them; and nothing is hidden from its heat. The law of יהוה Yahweh is perfect, reviving life. The testimony of יהוה Yahweh is firm, making wise the simple. The precepts of יהוה Yahweh are right, making the heart rejoice. The command of יהוה Yahweh is pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of יהוה Yahweh is pure, enduring forever. The ordinances of יהוה Yahweh are true; they are righteous altogether, more desirable than gold, even much fine gold; and sweeter than honey, even honey in the comb. Moreover, your servant is warned by them; in keeping them is great reward. Who can perceive his errors? Acquit me from hidden faults. Also, keep back your servant from arrogant sins; let them not rule over me. Then I shall be blameless, and I shall be innocent of great transgression. Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in your presence, O יהוה Yahweh, my rock and my redeemer.

Note: אל is the abbreviation (1st syllable) for One plural אלהים God, who is Unique.

Revelation 3:7-13 LEB (with Hebrew word for Jewish usual translation of אלהים as God in LXX) => “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: “This is what the holy one, the true one, the one who has the key of David, the one who opens and no one can shut, and who shuts and no one can open, says: ‘I know your works (behold, I have put before you an opened door that no one is able to shut) that you have a little strength, and have kept my word, and did not deny my name. Behold, I am causing those of the synagogue of Satan, the ones who call themselves Jews and are not, but are lying—behold, I will make them come and kneel down before your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. Because you have kept the word of my patient endurance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole inhabited world, to put to the test those who live on the earth. I am coming quickly! Hold fast to what you have, so that no one may take away your crown. The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my אלהים God, and he will never go outside again, and I will write on him the name of my אלהים God and the name of the city of my אלהים God, the new Jerusalem that comes down from heaven from my אלהים God, and my new name. The one who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’

Unclean spirit (demon) recognized The Holy One of אלהים God (Jesus) in Mark 1:22-28 LEB (with Hebrew word for Jewish usual translation of אלהים as God in LXX) => And they were amazed at his teaching, because he was teaching them like one who had authority, and not like the scribes. And so then there was a man in their synagogue with an unclean spirit, and he cried out, saying, “Leave us alone, Jesus the Nazarene! Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of אלהים God!” And Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be silent, and come out of him!” And after convulsing him and crying out with a loud voice, the unclean spirit came out of him. And they were all amazed, so that they began to discuss with one another, saying, “What is this? A new teaching with authority! He even commands the unclean spirits and they obey him.” And the report about him then went out everywhere in the whole surrounding region of Galilee.

The Holy One (Jesus) is Righteous, which is consistent with Jeremiah 23:5-6 LEB => “Look, days are coming,” declares יהוה Yahweh, “when I will raise up for David a righteous branch, and he will reign as king, and he will achieve success, and he will do justice and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell in safety, and this is his name by which he will be called: ‘יהוה Yahweh is our righteousness.’

Note: last phrase in Jeremiah 23:5-6 could translate plural pronoun attached to Righteousness as => ‘יהוה Yahweh is Righteousness We.’

Jewish religious leaders wanted to put Jesus to death for blasphemy in John 10:22-42 LEB (with Hebrew word for Jewish usual translation of אלהים as God in LXX) => Then the feast of the Dedication took place in Jerusalem. It was winter, and Jesus was walking in the temple in the Portico of Solomon. So the Jews surrounded him and began to say to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly!” Jesus answered them, “I told you and you do not believe! The deeds that I do in the name of my Father, these testify about me. But you do not believe, because you are not of my sheep! My sheep listen to my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. And I give them eternal life, and they will never perish forever, and no one will seize them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one can seize them from the Father’s hand. The Father and I are one.” Then the Jews picked up stones again so that they could stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good deeds from the Father. For which one of them are you going to stone me?” The Jews answered him, “We are not going to stone you concerning a good deed, but concerning blasphemy, and because you, although you are a man, make yourself to be אלהים God!” Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? If he called them ‘gods’ to whom the word of אלהים God came—and the scripture cannot be broken—do you say about he whom the Father set apart and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of אלהים God’? If I do not do the deeds of my Father, do not believe me. But if I am doing them, even if you do not believe me, believe the deeds, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.” So they were seeking again to seize him, and he departed out of their hand. And he went away again on the other side of the Jordan, to the place where John was baptizing at an earlier time, and he stayed there. And many came to him and began to say, “John performed no sign, but everything John said about this man was true!” And many believed in him there.

Note: Jewish translation of Psalm 82:6 plural אלהים into LXX is gods (Θεοί theoi is nominative, plural, masculine spelling of θεός theos). Scripture scrolls when Jesus walked on earth do not have chapter & verse numbering. Hence reference to Psalm 82:6 'gods' would have brought Psalm 82 context to mind in the Jewish religious leaders (had to know contextual wording to find a Scripture passage).

Pilate asked "What is Truth ?" after Jewish Religious Leaders brought Jesus to Pilate in John 18:28-38 LEB => Then they brought Jesus from Caiaphas to the governor’s residence. Now it was early, and they did not enter into the governor’s residence so that they would not be defiled, but could eat the Passover. So Pilate came outside to them and said, “What accusation do you bring against this man?” They answered and said to him, “If this man were not doing evil, we would not have handed him over to you!” So Pilate said to them, “You take him and judge him according to your law!” The Jews said to him, “It is not permitted for us to kill anyone,” in order that the word of Jesus would be fulfilled that he had spoken, indicating by what sort of death he was going to die. Then Pilate entered again into the governor’s residence and summoned Jesus and said to him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” Jesus replied, “Do you say this from yourself, or have others said this to you about me?” Pilate replied, “I am not a Jew, am I? Your people and the chief priests handed you over to me! What have you done?” Jesus replied, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews. But now my kingdom is not from here.” Then Pilate said to him, “So then you are a king!” Jesus replied, “You say that I am a king. For this reason I was born, and for this reason I have come into the world: in order that I can testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears my voice.” Pilate said to him, “What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews and said to them, “I find no basis for an accusation against him.

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@Wolfgang said to @Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus :

Not so fast, Mr.  @Wolfgang! In John 10:31-38, Jesus Himself quotes Psalm 82:6 as proof of His claims to divinity.

Wolfgang, you said there is nothing? Jesus appealed to the Old Testament Scriptures while teaching and considered them authoritative. This is most evident in John 10:34-35. Accompanying Jesus' usage is the telling remark: "'And scripture cannot be broken [luo]'" (v. 35). It cannot be luo loosed, broken, repealed, annulled, or abolished—even to the specific words. 

In short, Jesus considered the Old Testament canon as being the supreme authority in judging matters. CM

And what does that have to do with my post to which you were replying??? Nothing !!

Holy Scripture has a mixture of grammatically singular and plural words inspired by One Holy God to describe One Holy plural unique God.

Deuteronomy 6:4 => Sh’ma ( שמע - Hear & Obey ), Yisra’el! ( ישראל - Israel ) Adonai ( Lord spoken for יהוה ) Eloheinu ( plural אלהים God with plural 1st person pronoun suffix ), Adonai ( Lord spoken for יהוה ) echad ( אחד - One, Only, Unique )

Eloheinu can be translated 'our God', 'God of us' OR 'God We', similar to last phrase translation ‘יהוה Yahweh is Righteousness We.’ (plural 1st person pronoun suffix) in Jeremiah 23:5-6 LEB => “Look, days are coming,” declares יהוה Yahweh, “when I will raise up for David a righteous branch, and he will reign as king, and he will achieve success, and he will do justice and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell in safety, and this is his name by which he will be called: ‘יהוה Yahweh is our righteousness.’

Genesis 1:26 LEB => And אלהים God (plural) said, “Let us (plural) make (plural) humankind in our (plural) image and according to our (plural) likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of heaven, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every moving thing that moves upon the earth.”

Genesis 3:22 LEB => And יהוה Yahweh אלהים God (plural) said, “Look—the man has become as one of us (plural), to know good and evil. What if he stretches out his hand and takes also from the tree of life and eats, and lives forever?”

Isaiah 41:1-26 LEB => Listen to me in silence, coastlands, and let nations renew their strength. Let them approach, then let them speak; let us draw near together for judgment. Who has roused salvation from the east, summoned him to his foot, gives nations in his presence, and subjugates kings? He makes them like the dust with his sword, like scattered stubble with his bow. He pursues them and passes on in peace; he does not enter the path with his feet. Who has accomplished and done this, calling the generations from the beginning? I, יהוה Yahweh, am first; and I am the one with the last. The coastlands have seen and are afraid; the ends of the earth tremble. They have drawn near, and they have come. Each one helps his neighbor; he says to his brother, “Take courage!” And the artisan encourages the goldsmith, the one who makes smooth with the hammer encourages the one who strikes the anvil, saying of the soldering, “It is good!” And they strengthen it with nails so it cannot be knocked over. But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you, the offspring of Abraham my friend, you whom I grasped from the ends of the earth and called from its remotest parts and told, “You are my servant; I have chosen you and I have not rejected you.” You must not fear, for I am with you; you must not be afraid, for I am your אלהים God (plural). I will strengthen you, indeed I will help you, indeed I will take hold of you with the right hand of my salvation. Look! All those who are angry with you shall be ashamed and humiliated; your opponents shall be like nothing and shall become lost. You shall seek them, but you shall not find them; your opponents shall be like nothing, and the men of your war like nothing. For I, יהוה Yahweh your אלהים God (plural), am grasping your right hand; it is I who say to you, “You must not fear; I myself, I will help you. You must not fear, O worm of Jacob; people of Israel, I myself, I will help you,” declares יהוה Yahweh, “and your redeemer is the holy one of Israel. Look! I will make you into a new sharp threshing sledge, with sharp edges. You shall thresh and crush the mountains, and you shall make the hills like chaff. You shall winnow them and the wind shall carry them, and the tempest shall scatter them. And you yourself shall rejoice in Yahweh; you shall boast in the holy one of Israel. The poor and the needy are seeking water and there is none; their tongue is dried up with thirst. I, יהוה Yahweh, will answer them; I, the אלהים God (plural) of Israel, will not forsake them. I will open rivers on the barren heights and fountains in the midst of the valleys. I will make the wilderness like a pool of water and the land of dryness like springs of water. I will put the cedar, acacia, myrtle, and olive oil tree in the wilderness; I will set the cypress, elm, and box tree together in the desert so that they may see and know, and take to heart and understand together that the hand of יהוה Yahweh has done this, and the holy one of Israel has created it.” “Present your legal case,” says יהוה Yahweh. “Bring your evidence,” says the king of Jacob. Let them bring them, and let them tell us (plural) what will happen. Tell us (plural) what the former things are so that we (plural) may take them to our (plural) heart and know (plural) their outcome. Declare to us (plural) the things to come; tell us (plural) the things coming hereafter, that we (plural) may know (plural) that you are אלהים gods. Indeed, do good or do evil, that we (plural) may be afraid and see together. Look! you are nothing, and your work is something worthless; whoever chooses you is an abomination. I stirred up one from the north, and he has come from the rising of the sun. He shall call on my name, and he shall come on officials as on mortar, and as the potter treads clay. Who declared it from the beginning so that we might know, and beforehand so that we might say, “He is right!” Indeed, there was no one who declared it; Indeed, there was no one who proclaimed it. Indeed there was no one who heard your words.

Unclean spirit (demon) recognized The Holy One of אלהים God (Jesus) in Mark 1:22-28 LEB (with Hebrew word for Jewish usual translation of אלהים as God in LXX) => And they were amazed at his teaching, because he was teaching them like one who had authority, and not like the scribes. And so then there was a man in their synagogue with an unclean spirit, and he cried out, saying, “Leave us alone, Jesus the Nazarene! Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of אלהים God!” And Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be silent, and come out of him!” And after convulsing him and crying out with a loud voice, the unclean spirit came out of him. And they were all amazed, so that they began to discuss with one another, saying, “What is this? A new teaching with authority! He even commands the unclean spirits and they obey him.” And the report about him then went out everywhere in the whole surrounding region of Galilee.

Voices literally reflects what Scripture said/says. In my readings & people encounters, have learned Breath The Holy is everywhere, but does not have a physical image while does have an intelligent loving voice. A human person has their own human body.

2 Chronicles 18:12-34 LEB => Then the messenger who went to call Micaiah said to him, “Behold, the words of the prophets are good with one voice to the king. Please let your word be as one with them and speak good.” But Micaiah said, “As יהוה Yahweh lives, only what my אלהים God has said, that will I speak.” And when he had come to the king, the king said to him, “Micaiah, shall we go to Ramoth-Gilead to war or shall I cease?” And he said, “Go up and triumph! They shall be given into your hand.” But the king said to him, “How many times shall I make you swear that you speak nothing except the truth in the name of יהוה Yahweh?” Then he said, “I saw all Israel scattered upon the mountains like sheep that had no shepherd. And יהוה Yahweh said, ‘These have no masters; let each of them return to his own house in peace.’ ” Then the king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, “Did I not say to you he would not prophesy good concerning me, but only disaster?” Then Micaiah said, “Therefore hear the word of יהוה Yahweh: I saw יהוה Yahweh sitting upon his throne with all the host of heaven standing on his right and on his left. And יהוה Yahweh said, ‘Who will entice Ahab the king of Israel that he would go up and fall at Ramoth-Gilead?’ And one said this, and another said that. Then a spirit came forth and stood before יהוה Yahweh and said, ‘I will entice him.’ Then יהוה Yahweh said to him, ‘By what means?’ Then he said, ‘I will go forth and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And he said, ‘You will entice him and will also succeed. Go out and do so.’ So now, behold, יהוה Yahweh has put a spirit of deception into the mouths of these your prophets. יהוה Yahweh has spoken disaster against you.” Then Zedekiah the son of Kenaanah came near and struck Micaiah on the cheek and said, “Which way did the Spirit of יהוה Yahweh come from me to speak to you?” Then Micaiah said, “Behold, you will see on that day when you go into a private room to hide yourself.” Then the king of Israel said, “Take Micaiah and return him to Amon the commander of the city and to Jehoash the son of the king, and say, ‘Thus says the king: “Put this one into the prison house, and let him eat a meager ration of bread and water until I return in peace.” ’ ” And Micaiah said, “If you surely return in peace יהוה Yahweh has not spoken with me.” Then he said, “Hear, peoples, all of them!” Then the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat king of Judah went up to Ramoth-Gilead. And the king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, “I will disguise myself and go into battle, but you, wear your garments.” So the king of Israel disguised himself, and they went to war. Now the king of Aram had commanded the commanders of his chariots, saying, “Do not fight with the small or the great, but only with the king of Israel.” And it happened that when the commanders of the chariots saw Jehoshaphat, then they said, “It is the king of Israel!” And they turned against him to fight. Then Jehoshaphat cried out and יהוה Yahweh helped him. אלהים God drove them away from him. And it happened that when the commanders of the chariots saw that it was not the king of Israel, they turned back from following him. Now a certain man drew the bow at random and struck the king of Israel between the soldering of his breastplate armor. Then he said to the chariot driver, “Turn around; get me away from the war camp, for I am wounded.” And the battle went on that day, and the king of Israel was propped up in the chariot facing Aram until the evening. And he died at the time of the going down of the sun.

Simple test for True God prophetic announcements is 100% accuracy. Also noted אלהים God allowed a spirit of deception so unrighteous King Ahab of Israel died, which proved the prophets declaring "good" to King Ahab were wrong (spiritually deceived). Our spiritual adversary, the father of lies, wants to disrupt every human from loving אלהים God most of all, which includes master manipulation of truth mixed with lies to deceive.

Matthew 22:41-46 LEB (with Hebrew word for Jewish usual translation of יהוה as Lord in LXX & אדני Adonai as Lord in LXX Psalm 109) => Now while the Pharisees were assembled, Jesus asked them, saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?” They said to him, “David’s.” He said to them, “How then does David, by the Spirit, call him ‘יהוה Lord,’ saying, ‘The יהוה Lord said to my אדני Lord, “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet” ’? If then David calls him ‘יהוה Lord,’ how is he his son?” And no one was able to answer him a word, nor did anyone dare from that day on to ask him any more questions.

Jewish Pharisees had thousands of encounters hearing/saying אדני Adonai for יהוה every year. When יהוה Lord אלהים God breathed life into dust for creation of Adam, יהוה Lord אלהים God planned for The Word voice in אלהים God to take on human flesh as a descendant of King David, which is reflected in Revelation 22:16 LEB => “I, Jesus, sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”

John 16:1-15 LEB (with Hebrew word for Jewish usual translation of אלהים as God in LXX) => “I have said these things to you so that you will not fall away. They will expel you from the synagogue, but an hour is coming that everyone who kills you will think they are offering service to אלהים God. And they will do these things because they do not know the Father or me. But I have said these things to you so that when their hour comes, you may remember that I told you about them. “And I have not said these things to you from the beginning, because I was with you. But now I am going away to the one who sent me, and none of you is asking me, ‘Where are you going?’ But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your hearts. But I tell you the truth, it is better for you that I go away. For if I do not go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and concerning righteousness and concerning judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me, and concerning righteousness, because I am going away to the Father and you will see me no more, and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been condemned. I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. But when he—the Spirit of truth—comes, he will guide you into all the truth. For he will not speak from himself, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will proclaim to you the things to come. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and will proclaim it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine. For this reason I said that he takes from what is mine and will proclaim it to you.

Thankful for Breath The Holy conviction of sin being specific (along with wonderful Holy presence: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Humility, Self-Control).

Acts 2:1-4 LEB => And when the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in the same place. And suddenly a sound like a violent rushing wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. And divided tongues like fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages as the Spirit gave them ability to speak out.

Acts 5:1-11 LEB (with Hebrew words for Jewish usual translation of יהוה as Lord & אלהים as God in LXX) => Now a certain man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property, and he kept back for himself some of the proceeds, and his wife was aware of it. And he brought a certain part and placed it at the feet of the apostles. But Peter said, “Ananias, for what reason has Satan filled your heart, that you lied to the Holy Spirit and kept back for yourself some of the proceeds of the piece of land? When it remained to you, did it not remain yours? And when it was sold, was it at your disposal? How is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to people, but to אלהים God!” And when Ananias heard these words, he fell down and died. And great fear came on all those who heard about it. So the young men stood up, wrapped him up, and carried him out and buried him. And it happened that there was an interval of about three hours, and his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. And Peter said to her, “Tell me whether you both were paid this much for the piece of land.” And she said, “Yes, this much.” So Peter said to her, “How is it that it was agreed by you two to test the Spirit of the יהוה Lord? Behold, the feet of those who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out!” And immediately she fell down at his feet and died. So when the young men came in, they found her dead, and carried her out and buried her with her husband. And great fear came on the whole church and on all who heard about these things.

Acts 8:26-40 LEB (with Hebrew word for Jewish usual translation of יהוה as Lord in LXX) => Now an angel of the יהוה Lord spoke to Philip, saying, “Get up and go toward the south on the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” (This is a desert road.) And he got up and went, and behold, there was a man, an Ethiopian eunuch (a court official of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was over all her treasury) who had come to worship in Jerusalem and was returning and sitting in his chariot, and reading aloud the prophet Isaiah. And the Spirit said to Philip, “Approach and join this chariot.” So Philip ran up to it and heard him reading aloud Isaiah the prophet and said, “So then, do you understand what you are reading?” And he said, “So how could I, unless someone will guide me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. Now the passage of scripture that he was reading aloud was this: “He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and like a lamb before its shearer is silent, so he did not open his mouth. In his humiliation justice was taken from him. Who can describe his descendants? For his life was taken away from the earth.” And the eunuch answered and said to Philip, “I ask you, about whom does the prophet say this—about himself or about someone else?” So Philip opened his mouth and beginning from this scripture, proclaimed the good news to him about Jesus. And as they were traveling down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, “Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?” And he ordered the chariot to stop, and they both went down into the water—Philip and the eunuch—and he baptized him. And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the יהוה Lord carried Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him any longer, for he went on his way rejoicing. But Philip found himself at Azotus, and as he passed through, he proclaimed the good news to all the towns until he came to Caesarea.

Acts 10:9-24 LEB (with Hebrew words for Jewish usual translation of יהוה as Lord & אלהים as God in LXX) => And the next day, as they were on their way and approaching the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray at about the sixth hour. And he became hungry and wanted to eat. But while they were preparing the food, a trance came over him. And he saw heaven opened and an object something like a large sheet coming down, being let down to the earth by its four corners, in which were all the four-footed animals and reptiles of the earth and birds of the sky. And a voice came to him, “Get up, Peter, slaughter and eat!” But Peter said, “Certainly not, יהוה Lord! For I have never eaten anything common and unclean!” And the voice came again to him for the second time: “The things which אלהים God has made clean, you must not consider unclean!” And this happened three times, and immediately the object was taken up into heaven. Now while Peter was greatly perplexed within himself as to what the vision that he had seen might be, behold, the men who had been sent by Cornelius, having found the house of Simon by asking around, stood at the gate. And they called out and asked if Simon who was also called Peter was staying there as a guest. And while Peter was reflecting about the vision, the Spirit said to him, “Behold, men are looking for you. But get up, go down, and go with them—not hesitating at all, because I have sent them.” So Peter went down to the men and said, “Behold, I am he whom you are looking for! What is the reason for which you have come?” And they said, “Cornelius, a centurion, a righteous and אלהים God-fearing man—and well spoken of by the whole nation of the Jews—was directed by a holy angel to summon you to his house and to hear words from you.” So he invited them in and entertained them as guests, and on the next day he got up and went away with them. And some of the brothers from Joppa accompanied him. And on the next day he entered into Caesarea. Now Cornelius was waiting for them, and had called together his relatives and close friends.

Acts 21:10-14 LEB (with Hebrew word for Jewish usual translation of יהוה as Lord in LXX) => And while we were staying there many days, a certain prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. And he came to us and took Paul’s belt. Tying up his own feet and hands, he said, “This is what the Holy Spirit says: ‘In this way the Jews in Jerusalem will tie up the man whose belt this is, and will deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.’ ” And when we heard these things, both we and the local residents urged him not to go up to Jerusalem. Then Paul replied, “What are you doing weeping and breaking my heart? For I am ready not only to be tied up, but even to die in Jerusalem for the name of the יהוה Lord Jesus!” And because he would not be persuaded, we remained silent, saying, “The will of the יהוה Lord be done.”

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Why are things being mixed together which do not relate to each other?? Just because you want to make Jesus "eternally existent(begotten)" and essentially God??

From which Bible is this idea taken?? How does wisdom show Christ at creation??

@Wolfgang,

Re-read my post, mainly the texts. CM

@BroRando,

Jehovah's Witnesses differentiate sharply between Jehovah God and "Jesus his creature." Do they know that occasion writers in the New Testament apply to Jesus Christ passages from the Old Testament, which refer to Jehovah? 

Jehovah's Witnesses used the American Standard Version (1901) before the NWT OT. Is it still valid today? Even then, it proved Jesus is God. The Old Testament of this version makes the case. Thus, I will use it in the quotations taken from this version. 

• (a) Isaiah promises that "Jehovah will be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory" (Isa. 60:19 ASV). Luke applies this to Jesus, quoting it in the form. "A light for revelation to the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel" (Isa. 2: 32 [ASV]). 
• (b) Isaiah's vision in the temple (Isa. 6.1,3, 10 [ASV]) was of Jehovah. In the Gospel of John, however, it is said that Isaiah saw the glory of Jesus Christ and spoke of him (Isa. 12:37-41 [ASV], see especially verse 41). 
• (c) In Ps. 23:1 and Isaiah 40:10-11, Jehovah is said to be our shepherd. In John 10:11, Jesus, with obvious reference to the Old Testament passages, claimed to be the good shepherd. 
• (d) Paul quotes [he promise in Joel, "Whosoever shall call upon the name of Jehovah shall be delivered" (Joel 2:32 ASV), and refers it to Jesus: "If thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus as Lord, and shalt believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved . . . for, whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" (Rom. 10:9,13 ASV). 

These are just sample passages of the many that support Christ's Lordship with the representation throughout the Gospels that Jesus both claimed and exercised the prerogatives of the Lord God himself. Thus Jesus: 

• Forgives sins (Mark 2:10, etc.) 
• Raises the dead (Luke 7:12-15, etc.)
• Controls nature (Matt. 8:26)
• Will judge the secret motives of men (Matt. 7:22-23)
• Willingly receives divine homage (John 20:28-29). 

The statement in John 10:30, "I and the Father are one," is a constant claim of Jesus. His statement is either true or false. 

• If it is true, then.
• If it is false, he either knew it to be false, or he did not know it to be false. 
• If while claiming to be God, he knew this claim to be false, he was a liar. 
• If while claiming to be God, he did not know this claim to be false, he was demented. There is no other alternative. 

So, @Bill_Coley, @Wolfgang, @BroRando, is Jesus Lord, Liar, or Lunatic? CM

 @Wolfgang,

"None so blind who will not see." The Trinity consists of a reciprocal love relationship that pre-dates creation itself and models the ideal nature of all love relationships (cf. John 17:24). If you would only allow the One (Holy Spirit) you denied to teach you, enlightenment would be your reward. The Spirit is witness to the glorified Jesus (John 6:60–71; 7:32–39; 14–16). Prayer, humility, and reliance upon the Holy Spirit bring knowledge to the puny human mind compared to God's. Understanding the works of "The Holy Spirit in the Epistles" alone can open your eyes:

• The Holy Spirit opposes the flesh and affirms believers (Rom. 8:1–13, 14–23, 26, 27).
• The Holy Spirit provides gifts (1 Cor. 12:4–31; Rom. 12:6–8).
• The Holy Spirit transforms (Gal. 5:16–6:2).
• The Holy Spirit seals and guarantees believers (Eph. 1:3–14).
• The Holy Spirit provides access to God (Eph. 2:11–22).
• The Holy Spirit unifies (Eph. 4:1–16, 25–32).
• The Holy Spirit fills (Eph. 5:18–6:18).

The Holy Spirit brings transformation to our lives. It is the Holy Spirit that can change our inner being and change who we are. Acts 4:31 says,

Pray more to understand Scripture. The canon reveals the Trinity of the Father-Son love relationship. The most explicit statements about Father-Son love come in John, which is widely considered to be written later than many (if not all) other books of the NT. Matthew, Mark, and Luke underscore power. John emphasizes revelation.

The Spirit is a transmitter of knowledge, a teacher of truth, or a source of wisdom. Said Jesus,

"Spirit of truth" signals the importance of the Spirit's work in communicating proper knowledge. As Jesus promised, the Spirit would lead the disciples "into all truth" (John 16:13). The task of the Spirit was to help the disciples to "comprehend the depths and heights" of the truth made known by Jesus and yet unperceived by them. The Spirit can flash an idea to the interpreter of Scripture to see a new connection or a new application.

 @Wolfgang  said:

From which Bible is this idea taken?? How does wisdom show Christ at creation??

Read the Bible in its fullness. Take time to see the composite of the writers' expressions in the Old/New Testaments that reveals the Trinity. Look at the Holy personality, the power, authority, and prerogatives of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Behold the Oneness of God. Stop dismissing Scripture because it doesn't fit your human thinking or reasoning. Let God show you anew what he has revealed through "Holy men." Give God a chance in your reasoning process. CM

SOURCES:

• Keith Warrington, The Message of the Holy Spirit: The Spirit of Encounter (Downers Grove, Ill.: InterVarsity, 2009), 6.
• George R. Beasley-Murray, John, Word Biblical Commentary, vol. 36 (Waco, TX: Word, 1987), 283.