Information is key. Ask the trintarian to post his belief. Most will refuse to post the trinity doctrine that they beleive in because it is easi;y discredit by scripture. But if they do, you can point to scriptures like (Matthew 16:16).
A good numbr of trinitarians believe that the trinity is inspired of God. Ask, what scripture is the trinity in. Most will throw up several scriptures. Usually something... well anything to do with (3). You can easily compare their trinity doctrine to scripture. If the person refuses to show his trinity doctrine, then you are dealing with someone who is decptive and only seeking to stumble you. So please be careful.
Jesus Christ stated that in the time of the end, "The Son of man will send his angels, and they will collect out from his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness, and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be." (Matthew 13:41-42)
So time is of the essence... it will take some work since most tend to be brainwashed in seeing things that are not really in the Bible. The trinity replaces Jesus Christ for salvation, so don't be surprised when they reject the blood and body of Christ. Simply find some good info on exposing the pagan doctrine.
Thankful for Google transliterates יהוה in English as Jehovah. Visit JW.org about whom Jesus Christ calls the Only True God in (John 17:3)
When exposing the trinity, one should note that Jesus Christ is far removed from the doctrine. So many trinitarians are afraid of exposing this manmade doctrine on public forms. Therefore, one should know that the trinity is pure polytheism. Its doctrine claims three SEPERATE GODS.
A few trinitarians will even include Mary as a Goddess or Mother of God. Many trintarians will look you in the eye and state that the trinity is not made of three Gods when the doctine itself lists (3) SEPERATE Gods...
1) God the Father
2) God the Son
3) God the Holy Spirit
So when they go down this road with you, don't follow. Simply ask which one of those GODS is not God? More info on the occult of the trinity and where it comes from.
Curious what the words "Jesus Christ" currently mean to @BroRando ?
Does CD thread Is Jesus Christ (Michael the Archangel)? started by @BroRando embed Watchtower Society meaning in the thread title ?
How can believing in Michael the Archangel as Lord (for salvation) & Jehovah as God not be a form of polytheism ?
If you believe a human organization is the only correct communication channel between yourself and God, then your belief filter "sees" ideas that aligns with organization. Simple test for prophet of Holy God is 100% accuracy. Watchtower Society (JW.org) fails prophecy testing so that human organization should NOT be trusted. Thankful for @C Mc posting 26 failed predictions with page citations in JW sources on October 30, 2021
Every human chooses what to ❤ Love most. If you really want to love יהוה Yahweh your אלהים God with all of you, then put away untrustworthy Watchtower Society stuff, including the New World Translation (due to the society beliefs being bent into their "translation" text). Highly recommend asking God to open your eyes to behold truth (Psalm 119:17-24) followed by reading Bible text in paragraphs and larger context.
Page 1 of Thread Is Jesus Christ (Michael the Archangel)? includes heavenly eyewitness question with no reply by @BroRando (as of 21 Nov 2021)
How can Jesus Christ be the same person as the archangel Michael ?
Four year old Colton Burpo saw both Jesus Christ (sat on His lap) & the archangel Michael (flaming sword) in אלהים God's Holy Heaven in 2003. Colton Burpo's story is in the book Heaven Is for Real & movie Heaven Is for Real (film)
What is the difference between Tri-Theism & Tri-Unity (Trinity) ?
What is plural in One unique God ?
Hebrew nouns have three spelling forms: singular, dual (e.g. ears, eyes), & plural. Hebrew plural is a minimum of three.
Deuteronomy 6:4 LEB => “Hear, Israel, Yahweh our God, Yahweh is unique.
Hebrew word translated "our God" is אלהינו e-lo-HAY-nu that is plural אלהים e-lo-HEEM God with plural 1st person pronoun suffix: Our or We
Hebrew letter direction is different than English & Greek. Hebrew is read from right to left while Greek & English are read left to right. Hebrew pronunciation tends to emphasis the last or next to last syllable (bit different than English). Deuteronomy 6:4 pronounciation in The Israel Bible (ISBN 978-1-940516-80-6 published in 2018) has a-do-NAI (Lord) substitute for יהוה (Jewish verbal name substitution is more than 2,222 years old)
sh'-MA yis-ra-AYL a-do-NAI e-lo-HAY-nu a-do-NAI e-KHAD
שמע sh'-MA - to hear & obey - verb, Qal, imperative, 2nd person, masculine (Imperative is volitional command)
ישראל yis-ra-AYL - Israel - noun, proper, singular, absolute (proper noun names a particular or specific object)
יהוה a-do-NAI - Yahweh - noun, proper, masculine, singular, absolute
אלהינו e-lo-HAY-nu - God Our/We - noun, common, masculine, plural, construct & pronoun, suffixed, 1st person, plural
יהוה a-do-NAI - Yahweh - noun, proper, masculine, singular, absolute
אחד e-KHAD - one/only/unique - numeral, cardinal, singular, absolute
Jewish scholars usually translated Hebrew יהוה as Κύριος (Lord) in the Greek Septuagint (LXX) a couple centuries before Jesus ("I AM The Bread of Life") was born in בית-לחם (bayt LE-khem - Bethleham - house of Bread). Jewish tradition includes reading Hebrew Bible (or Greek speaking Jews reading Septuagint) every year. Daily recititation includes "The Shema" Deuteronomy 6:4-9, Deuteronomy 11:13-21, Numbers 15:37-41.
After World War II Holocaust, "sh'MA yis-ra-AYL" was used by Jewish Rabbi to search for Jewish orphans in Europe:
The word trinity (tri-unity) does not appear in Scripture text. Humanly do not know how my understanding of One unique plural e-lo-HEEM אלהים God (mis)aligns with various human trinitarian authors (who have differing opinions about trinity doctrine being implicit OR explicit).
Jewish Zohar mysticism describes One God having 10 sefirot (attributes), yet "sees" three names in Deuteronomy 6:4 יהוה אלהינו יהוה
Holy Name יהוה being twice in Deuteronomy 6:4 is truthfully consistent with Jeremiah 23:5-6 LEB => “Look, days are coming,” declares יהוה Yahweh, “when I will raise up for David a righteous branch, and he will reign as king, and he will achieve success, and he will do justice and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell in safety, and this is his name by which he will be called: ‘יהוה Yahweh is our righteousness.’
Hebrew word for righteousness has 1st person plural suffix pronoun so phrase could literally be translated: 'יהוה Yahweh Righteousness We'
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Here's your trinity doctrine of three gods,
1) God the Father
2) God the Son
3) God the Holy Spirit
Are all three GODS?
Which one is not God?
Isn't this Polytheism?
Why have your translators removed Yahweh from the Greek scripture even though many scriptures quotes from the Hebrew Scriptures.
@BroRando We just want you to know that you have our deepest compassion. I can’t imagine the abuse you have suffered within the JW cult, the fear, the confusion, the anxious defensiveness that wells up in your heart and displays itself in chaotic posts. True Christian’s are here for you to find a safe path back to truth.
To all appearances, when people confront falsehood from the Watchtower, your inner struggle with Truth triggers fears from your difficult past. We care. Take heart!
🙏 Praying for אלהים God's Holy Healing in all life domains: heart (emotional), mind (mental), soul (social), strength (physical), & worship (spiritual) along with אלהים God's mercy to be poured out plus justice done 🙏 while weeping 😭 with those who are weeping 😭(including ones blinded by personal belief ideas so cannot see Holy אלהים God's Love ❤ in Scripture) & 😍 Rejoicing with those Rejoicing 😍
Thankful אלהים God chooses who, what, where, & when, to heal ❤😍 praying for many, especially Jesus is יהוה Lord אלהים God believers & human enemies, so some receive אלהים God's Holy Healing ❤(for spiritual enemies, can include Breath The Holy opening eyes to truly see אלהים God so each human individual can choose what to ❤ Love most).
@BroRando November 21 @Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus Here's your trinity doctrine of three gods,
Really ? Your description of my words about One unique plural אלהים e-lo-HEEM God are simply incorrect. None of my Christian Discourse comments have included the trinity words that you are ascribing as my doctrine.
Repeating questions that you have not answered: What is the difference between Tri-Theism & Tri-Unity (Trinity) ?
What is plural in One unique God ?
Also, What are your thoughts about three names in Deuteronomy 6:4 יהוה אלהינו יהוה ? (We => אלהים has 1st person plural pronoun suffix)
Holy Name יהוה being twice in Deuteronomy 6:4 is truthfully consistent with Jeremiah 23:5-6 LEB => “Look, days are coming,” declares יהוה Yahweh, “when I will raise up for David a righteous branch, and he will reign as king, and he will achieve success, and he will do justice and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell in safety, and this is his name by which he will be called: ‘יהוה Yahweh is our righteousness.’
Hebrew word צדקנו righteousness has 1st person plural pronoun suffix so his name could be translated => 'יהוה Yahweh Righteousness We'
Page 1 of thread Can the trinity be trusted as a Biblical Teaching? includes another question @BroRando has not answered:
What did Jesus command the man set free from "Legion" of demons to say & do in Luke 8:26-39 & Mark 5:1-20 ?
My answer: The man set free from "Legion" of demons described Jesus as Lord יהוה Yahweh אלהים God in the Decapolis (ten cities).
Jewish Rabbi Jesus would NOT describe Himself as אלהים God as Jesus is one voice in plural אלהים God. Spiritual quality inside the man Jesus is fully אלהים God (John 1:1) while אלהים God is more than The Word (Jesus) voice. One unique plural אלהים God has two Lord יהוה Yahweh voices: The Will (Father) & The Word (Jesus). Unified completeness of אלהים God includes Breath The Holy. All three voices can choose to simultaneously speak together as One אלהים God. Scripture has mix of singular and plural words inspired by One unique אלהים God to describe One unique אלהים God. Some Biblical passages uniquely identify each אלהים God voice while other passages have אלהים God voices unified as One.
Human singular voice analogy is three part choir of three persons singing the same words harmoniously so voices blend together to create a marvelous musical expression. Unity of One unique plural אלהים God is spiritually different than three human persons (or three gods).
Jewish Rabbi Jesus saying: "The Father and I are One" in John 10:30 was understood by Jewish religious leaders (scholars) as Jesus saying "The Father and I are One יהוה Lord" as shown in John 10:33 => The Jews answered him, “We are not going to stone you concerning a good deed, but concerning blasphemy, and because you, although you are a man, make yourself to be אלהים God!”
How many times is the word ❤ Love ❤ in 1 John 4:1-21 LEB (with Hebrew word for Jewish usual translation of אלהים as God in LXX) => Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from אלהים God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of אלהים God: every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from אלהים God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from אלהים God, and this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. You are from אלהים God, little children, and have conquered them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world and the world listens to them. We are from אלהים God. The one who knows אלהים God listens to us; whoever is not from אלהים God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deceit. Dear friends, let us ❤ love ❤ one another, because ❤ love ❤ is from אלהים God, and everyone who ❤ loves ❤ has been fathered by אלהים God and knows אלהים God. The one who does not ❤ love ❤ does not know אלהים God, because אלהים God is ❤ love ❤ . By this the ❤ love ❤ of אלהים God is revealed in us: that אלהים God sent his one and only Son into the world in order that we may live through him. In this is ❤ love ❤ : not that we have ❤ loved ❤ אלהים God, but that he ❤ loved ❤ us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Dear friends, if אלהים God ❤ loved ❤ us in this way, we also ought to ❤ love ❤ one another. No one has seen אלהים God at any time. If we ❤ love ❤ one another, אלהים God resides in us and his ❤ love ❤ is perfected in us. By this we know that we reside in him and he in us: that he has given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world. Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of אלהים God, אלהים God resides in him and he in אלהים God. And we have come to know and have believed the ❤ love ❤ that אלהים God has in us. אלהים God is ❤ love ❤ , and the one who resides in ❤ love ❤ resides in אלהים God, and אלהים God resides in him. By this ❤ love ❤ is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment, because just as that one is, so also are we in this world. There is no fear in ❤ love ❤ , but perfect ❤ love ❤ drives out fear, because fear includes punishment, and the one who is afraid has not been perfected in ❤ love. ❤ We ❤ love ❤ , because he first ❤ loved ❤ us. If anyone says, “I ❤ love ❤ אלהים God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar, for the one who does not ❤ love ❤ his brother whom he has seen is not able to ❤ love ❤ אלהים God whom he has not seen. And this is the commandment we have from him: that the one who ❤ loves ❤ אלהים God should ❤ love ❤ his brother also.
Koine Greek grammar for phrase "אלהים God is ❤ love ❤" shows all ❤ Love ❤ quality is אלהים God while אלהים God is more than ❤ Love ❤ : e.g. Holy, Righteous, Just, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Humility, Self-Control.
Watchtower society (JW.org) is an example of a false prophet (spirit of deceit) that has gone out into the world.
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Trinitarians are not Christians. They removed Christ from the Bible and reject the teachings of Jesus Christ. For instance, when Jesus claimed God is a Spirit (John 4:24) Trintarians are often the first ones to dismiss his teachings with their demonic trinity of (3) Gods. Did you notice that the trinity Cult never claims God is a Spirit? You will not find that teaching in Satan's domain of the trinity.
One of the favorite Bibles of the antichrists is called the Counterfeit bible. It replaced what was left of God's Name Jehovah and removed it in its' entirety. Is removing God's Name Christian?
Triquetra (from a Latin word meaning "three-cornered") is an ancient symbol for the Trinity. It comprises three interwoven arcs, distinct yet equal and inseparable, symbolizing that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three distinct yet equal Persons and indivisibly One God."
Do you see the interlocking of the numbers 666 that represent the 3 false gods? Trintarians push this at all cost and yet notice the teaching of the trinity cult dismisses Jesus Christ at every opportunity. There is nothing Christian about the trinity nor are its followers. So here is a scripture found in the counterfeit bible and there are many astrocities against God and his Anointed One.
"Then He healed many who were sick with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and He did not allow the demons to speak, because they knew Him. to be Christ. (Mark 1:34 NKJV)
Do you see how Christ was struck out? Trinitarians make up 101 excuses for removing Christ but they never admit it was a mistake or human error, Rather, trintitarians support the removing Christ from scripture otherwise they would not keep using the demonic translations of removing God's Name, Christ and Begotten from scriptures.
Notice the Greek translation has Christ but the demonic trintarians removed Christ. Most of the CD poster defend this ant-christain theology.
Remember when you start poining fingers, there THREE more pointing against you. Get it... THREE... lol
Jehovah Witnesses never removed God's Name, Christ, of begotten from the Bible. Against much demonic opposition we put them back! Jehovah Witnesses have NEVER burned anyone at a staruos for reading the Bible. The trintarians did that and their sins against humanity have reached the Heavens. "All the peoples of the earth will have to see that Jehovah’s Name has been called upon you, and they will be afraid of you." (Deuteronomy 28:10) Come! Bring all Your Mighty Men! (Deut 8:19-20)
I am feeling worried about @BroRando who seems disturbingly quiet. I hope the Watchtower didn't get him.
When you reject Jesus, he will reject you. So where is Jesus' Name in the trinity doctrine? Do you Beleive in JESUS?
For whoever becomes ashamed of me and of my words, the Son of man will be ashamed of that person when he comes in his glory and that of the Father and of the holy angels.
After this I saw another angel descending from heaven with great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his glory.
Turn around a dump your heathen trinity that denies JESUS. The trinity is pulling you under the lake of fire and sulpher.
