Vote Counter Fraud?

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  • WolfgangWolfgang Posts: 2,825

    “I do believe that there is voter fraud taking place in these places otherwise they would allow the observers to go in. When you have claims of you know 10000 people who don’t live in the State of Nevada, err, having voted in Nevada, you have the video showing where people … they either duplicating a spoiled ballot right there or they’re in the process of just marking a ballot that came in blank for a voter, that’s a process that needs to be observed by election observers. State law allows those observers to be in there and if they are not than the law is not being followed making this an illegitimate election”. ( James E. Trainor, Federal Election Commission (FEC) of the USA)

    Source: https://sciencefiles.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Federal-election-commission.mp4?_=3

  • WolfgangWolfgang Posts: 2,825

    Seems like more "dark nebulous secrets are coming to light?

  • WolfgangWolfgang Posts: 2,825

    Some more information from some people whom one would not count as and dispose as "conspiracy THEORISTS", or?

  • WolfgangWolfgang Posts: 2,825
    edited November 30

    Some excerpts from the article ... a few points to simply think about and make up your own mind:

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    If following all of this is too demanding for your time and energy, fall back on common sense: 

    Consider that Joe Biden’s Twitter account has 20 million followers. Trump’s Twitter account has 88.8 million followers.

    Consider that Joe Biden’s Facebook account has 7.78 million followers. Trump’s Facebook account has 34.72 million followers.

    How likely is it that a person with four to five times the following of his rival lost the election?

    Consider that Joe Biden, declared by the biased presstitutes to be president by landslide, gave a Thanksgiving Day message and only 1,000 people watched his live statement. Where is the enthusiasm?

    Consider that Trump’s campaign appearances were heavily attended and that Biden’s were avoided. Somehow a candidate who could not draw supporters to his campaign appearances won the presidency.

    Consider that despite Biden’s total failure to animate voters during the presidential campaign, he received 15 million more votes than Barack Obama did in his 2012 re-election. 

    Consider that Biden won despite underperforming Hillary Clinton’s 2016 vote in every urban US county, but outperformed Clinton in Democrat-controlled Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Philadelphia, the precise cities where the most obvious and most blatant electoral fraud was committed.

    Consider that Biden won despite receiving a record low share of the Democrat primary vote compared to Trump’s share of the Republican primary vote.

    Consider that Biden won despite Trump bettering his 2016 vote by ten million votes and Trump’s record support from minority voters.

    Consider that Biden won despite losing the bellwether counties that have always predicted the election outcome and the bellwether states of Ohio and Florida.

    Consider that Biden won in Georgia, a completely red state with a red governor and legislature both House and Senate. Somehow a red state voted for a blue president.

    Consider that Biden won despite the Democrats losing representation in the House.

    Consider that in Pennsylvania 47 memory cards containing more than 50,000 votes are missing.

    Consider that in Pennsylvania 1.8 million ballots were mailed out to voters, but 2.5 million mail-in ballots were counted. 

    Consider that the presstitutes have zero interest in this massive list of improbables.

    Consider that the pressititues, the Democrats, the social media and tech executives, and universities have far more loyalty to getting Trump out of office regardless of the means than they have to democratic outcomes and fair elections. The massive fraud of the 2020 election was only possible because the liberal part of America has divorced American values and has no respect for them. The American liberal is no longer liberal. He has morphed into a fascist who suppresses speech and denies legitimacy to other opinions. Indeed, liberals are so hostile to electoral integrity that they want those who bring evidence of electoral fraud to be imprisoned— https://nonperele.com/nolte-rachel-maddow-says-people-who-contest-elections-should-go-to-jail/ 

    It is educated Americans brainwashed by Critical Race Theory and Identity Politics who are liberals, not the working class who are the real Americans. Red state people are Americans. Blue state people are not. Blue state people demonize real Americans and have branded them racists and misogynists. Real Americans—the majority of the population—are “the Trump deplorables.”  

    The Real Americans have just had their democracy stolen from them by people who have no integrity and no honor.  

    If the stolen election stands, America falls.

    ...

  • reformedreformed Posts: 2,933

    I normally don't like PCR, but he is spot on here. This doesn't pass the common sense or logic test. There is no way this election is on the level.

  • Bill_ColeyBill_Coley Posts: 2,146

    Since Wolfgang's latest quotation of other sources has generated a comment from @reformed, the other election truther in these forums, I'll have a go at the cited Roberts' assertions. Chances are neither of you gentlemen will choose to respond directly to my critique:


    Consider that Joe Biden’s Twitter account has 20 million followers. Trump’s Twitter account has 88.8 million followers.... Consider that Joe Biden’s Facebook account has 7.78 million followers. Trump’s Facebook account has 34.72 million followers.... How likely is it that a person with four to five times the following of his rival lost the election?

    So Twitter and Facebook followers predict vote margins. Did NOT know that.

    The artist Justin Bieber has 113.1 million Twitter followers, which is more than President Trump's 88.8 million. Thank God Bieber didn't run right?! (And don't get me started about Katy Perry's 108.9 million followers. She's like the musical Kamala Harris.)

    Former President Barack Obama has 125.9 million Twitter followers, which is even more than Bieber's and Perry's totals. Thank God presidents can't run for a third term!


    Consider that Joe Biden, declared by the biased presstitutes to be president by landslide, gave a Thanksgiving Day message and only 1,000 people watched his live statement. Where is the enthusiasm?

    Donald Trump characterized his 2016 win as a "MASSIVE electoral college landslide victory." Mr. Trump's winning margin was 306-232, the SAME margin by which Mr. Biden won the 2020 election. I personally don't think 306-232 is a landslide, but Mr. Trump thought it was. Was HE wrong, Mr. Roberts?

    Roberts' claim that the Biden Thanksgiving speech was viewed by only 1,000 people is false. The NBC feed of the speech had 450,000 views. The Biden campaign website's feed logged more than 100,000 views. There were other viewing platforms as well.

    And Thanksgiving video views predict voter turnout? Did not know THAT either.


    Consider that Trump’s campaign appearances were heavily attended and that Biden’s were avoided. Somehow a candidate who could not draw supporters to his campaign appearances won the presidency.

    Mr. Roberts apparently does not remember that the Biden-Harris campaign committed itself to following public health expert guidelines in its campaign events, guidelines which called for small, socially distanced, masked, and outside gatherings, if people were to gather at all, and remote events if possible. The Trump-Pence campaign eschewed those guidelines, and welcomed thousands of unmasked people to stand shoulder-to-shoulder at its rallies. If Mr. Roberts needs assistance recalling the effects of the Trump-Pence campaign rally strategy, he can contact Herman Cain... who died from COVID after attending Mr. Trump's indoor rally in Tulsa, or any of the more 30,000 people whose COVID cases (including more than 700 deaths) Stanford University researchers have traced back to Trump rallies.


    Consider that despite Biden’s total failure to animate voters during the presidential campaign, he received 15 million more votes than Barack Obama did in his 2012 re-election. 

    Barack Obama won 51.1% of the 126 million votes cast in the 2012 election.

    According to the Associated Press, so far, Joe Biden has won 51.1% of the 157 million votes cast in the 2020 election.

    So Biden has won SAME percentage of the vote as Obama won in 2012, but Biden won that same percentage of 31 million more voters. Mr. Roberts just needs to do the math.


    Consider that Biden won despite underperforming Hillary Clinton’s 2016 vote in every urban US county, but outperformed Clinton in Democrat-controlled Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Philadelphia, the precise cities where the most obvious and most blatant electoral fraud was committed.

    This story is also false. The good folks at Townhall.com published a story making this claim, but then had to acknowledge that its story had "jumped the gun." Townhall has since corrected its errors.

    There is NO evidence of widespread, consequential voter fraud ANYWHERE in the country. Court ruling after court ruling - many VERY explicitly - has said so.


    Consider that Biden won despite receiving a record low share of the Democrat primary vote compared to Trump’s share of the Republican primary vote.

    Mr. Roberts doesn't seem to remember that Mr. Biden ran against several other credible primary opponents, while Mr. Trump ran without serious opposition. It is therefore not at all surprising that Mr. Biden won a smaller percentage of the Democratic primary vote than Mr. Trump won of the Republican primary vote.

    And comparative primary vote percentages predict vote margins? Did not know THAT either. (It turns out there's a LOT I did not know about vote margin predictors!)


    Consider that Biden won despite Trump bettering his 2016 vote by ten million votes and Trump’s record support from minority voters.

    Mr. Trump won 46.1% of the 139 million votes cast in 2016. In 2020 so far, he's won 47.1% of 157 million votes. So a higher percentage of a great number of total votes. Again Mr. Roberts need only do the math.


    Consider that Biden won despite losing the bellwether counties that have always predicted the election outcome and the bellwether states of Ohio and Florida.

    Bellweather counties can be wrong.


    Consider that Biden won in Georgia, a completely red state with a red governor and legislature both House and Senate. Somehow a red state voted for a blue president.

    Mr Roberts apparently hasn't kept informed as to the changes in Georgia's political demographics. John Osoff came close to winning the governor's office two years ago. He'll win or come even closer this year in his senate race. Georgia is now a purple state, on its way to blue.


    Consider that Biden won despite the Democrats losing representation in the House.

    It's legal in most, I dare say ALL, states to vote split tickets. Voters may legally vote for candidates of different political parties. Mr. Trump lost for lots of reasons, but at the root of his troubles was that he was unpopular with the electorate at large, his favorability rating in the country hovering in the low- to mid-40s throughout the vast majority of his term.


    Consider that in Pennsylvania 47 memory cards containing more than 50,000 votes are missing.

    As best as I can discern, this is the claim of one Pennsylvania resident. There is no objective proof of his allegations, or that if they are true, the missing cards changed the result of Pennsylvania's election.


    Consider that in Pennsylvania 1.8 million ballots were mailed out to voters, but 2.5 million mail-in ballots were counted. 

    Mr. Roberts didn't track these numbers carefully enough. In Pennsylvania this year, 1.8 million mail-in ballots were requested for the primary election, while 2.5 (actually 2.6) million mail-in ballots were returned for the general election. As the Washington Post reports, this claim "conflates" primary and general election numbers, which of course, can lead to falsehoods such as this one.


    Consider that the presstitutes have zero interest in this massive list of improbables.

    Given the results of the fact check I just conducted on them, I'd call this a "massive list of false and misleading claims." Had either of you taken ten minutes to fact check these claims, gentlemen, you would have discovered for yourselves their negligible relationship with the truth. But truth be told, I'm not surprised that neither of you did so.


    [THE REST OF THE QUOTATION FROM MR. ROBERTS' ESSAY DOES NOT DESERVE THE DIGNITY OF ANYONE'S CRITIQUE. IT'S PARTISAN POLITICAL GARBAGE.... SURPRISE, SURPRISE.]

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