What's the truth of 1 John 2? Are you of Christ?

C_M_C_M_ Posts: 3,343

What is your understand of 1 John 2. Can we read out of the passage for a change? Let's get down to business of reading and understanding 1 John 2. Many eyes may be opened for all to see themselves. Please share honestly. CM

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  • WolfgangWolfgang Posts: 2,200

    The whole chapter 1 John 2 addresses quite a number of different topics, aspects ... which passage(s) from that chapter did you have in mind when asking others for their "understand" ?

  • C_M_C_M_ Posts: 3,343

    CD Brethren,

    It's time for us to focus more intently in minding the Scriptures in its purity. We need to get away from exegetical quickies and "rightly divide the Word of truth". . "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" (2 Tim 2:15). Rightly dividing the Word demands that in interpreting the Scriptures, the partipabts of CD must: 

    1.     Not DEPART from the Word -- must first accept the Word wholeheartedly as the inspired, trustworthy, and solely authoritative norm for the Christian. 

    2.     Not DOUBT the Word -- the Bible is the most authoritative guide for Christian doctrine and conduct (2 Tim 3:16, 17).

    Let's keep in mind God is willing to help every reader to rightly understand and apply its truths. Due to Wrong Assumptions, Human Pride and Arrogance are why people doubt the Word. In view of a series of threads demoting Jesus to just a man, a created being or some kind of modified angel with divine privileges, we need to get back to the basics reading out of the passage for clear understanding what God has revealed through Inspired men. I am sorry Bill will not engage this thread directly, but contributes, perhaps, via, a surrogate. Regardless, the door is opened, if he decides, to participate.

    We need to do more like Jesus, start with the known and moved to the unknown, from the familiar to the unfamiliar in our approach to the Scriptures. We need to move away from letting our theology precede our exegesis. The word "exegesis" is a transliteration of a Greek word which means "description, explanation, or interpretation." The verb form is found in the New Testament and means to explain, interpret, tell, report, and describe (See John 1:18, Luke 24:35, Acts 10:8; 15:12, 14; 21:19).

    Biblical exegesis is what I want us to do with this chapter. That is follow a set of procedures for discovering the biblical author's intended meaning in a passage and the application of the meaning of chapter for today's readers. Biblical exegesis can also mean the practice of these procedures.

    Of courage there many ways of studying a passage from the Bible in order to understand its meaning and derive an application. Exegesis reveals what the Bible says and means.

    "He who shirks exegesis advertises in a loud voice that he does not really care what the Bible says but only wishes to use it insofar as it supports the clever points that he wishes to make. Such a man cannot possibly do biblical preaching, for he will not begin seriously with the Bible."

    in short, in order to understand a biblical passage, there are several factors that make skills and procedures in interpreting the Bible necessary. Do you know what they are? CM


    SOURCE:

    -- John Wright, The Authority of the Old Testament (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1967) p. 170.

  • WolfgangWolfgang Posts: 2,200
    edited January 15

    @C_M_ wrote

    In view of a series of threads demoting Jesus to just a man, a created being or some kind of modified angel with divine privileges, we need to get back to the basics reading out of the passage for clear understanding what God has revealed through Inspired men.

    so you are starting the study with a certain assumption concerning some posts from others in these forums in which they pointed out scripture after scripture of what the Bible says regarding the man Jesus, whom God made both Lord and Christ (cp Acts 2:36) ...

    What you state here appears to be a false assumption as I do not recall someone posting about "demoting Jesus to just a man" nor Jesus being "some kind of modified angel with divine privileges", etc.

    How do you suggest one can "get back to the basics reading out of the passages for clear understanding what God has revealed through inspired men" ?? what should be done if Bible passages do not support widely accepted church dogmas but rather show those to be lacking?

    I am of the opinion, that I have never done or tried to do anything other than reading correctly out of a passage what the passage says and means, considering properly the use of literal or figurative languages, considering the context of biblical culture and history, and recognizing overall scope and context of the Scriptures as a whole ... for proof of what I just wrote, anyone may take a look through various threads where such topic was studied.

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