Titus 2:13 -- The Smoking Gun -- Jesus is Godhttps://christiandiscourse.net/discussion/comment/13348
Titus 2:13 is found in the middle of a sentence that reaches from vs.
I think I found the answer to our concern of low user-ship. To possibly understand the low participation in these forums are right before our eyes. This is in no way a reflection up chairman Jan or any of his dedication and sacrifices (time, mean, energy or influence). It's not for a lack of interesting topics, it's not for a want of time in many of the current few users cases, or thoughts to express. The truth be told, it's not even the "elementary" name calling, as repugnant as it is. Nor is it the minus passion or lack of convictions. It is the name: "Christian Debate". How it was chosen I am void of its history. I do know that the current CD doesn't provide what is stated. The forum lacks the qualitative substance that its name demands. When true debaters comes to this site, it's a turn-off and a joke. The qualities of a good debater include the ability to speak clearly, think quickly, clarify arguments, provide examples, maintain persuasive speech, and maintain a professional tone. Do the current user possess the skills that true debates demands? It's not that I am being needlessly critical or mean-spirited, but soberly reflective. Here are my reasonings:
The five steps are as follows:
Wherein one may find in the aforementioned, laid-out, in a few cases, it's one-sided. It's not always for a lack of cooperation, but for a lack of skills. No one need to be offended or alarmed. Every Christian or one professing to be one, is not trained, skilled or a gifted debater. It's not a prerequisite to being a christian. Believers are expected to give a reason for the hope within. This is a far cry from being a skilled debater. A Christian or a non-christian, skilled in debating, beholding such, it's a turn-off. He or she is first seek to identify which of the four types of debates are being used. There are four types of debates that are commonly used. These debates:
Is there such thing as debate "solitaire". Can one debate with one's self? A debate is a discussion or structured contest about an issue or a resolution.
A formal debate involves two sides:
Such a debate is bound by rules previously agreed upon. Debates may be judged in order to declare a winning side. Debates, in one form or another, are commonly used in democratic societies to explore and resolve issues and problems. Decisions at a board meeting, public hearing, legislative assembly, or local organization are often reached through discussion and debate. Indeed, any discussion of a resolution is a form of debate, which may or may not follow formal rules (such as Robert’s Rules of Order). In the context of a classroom, the topic for debate will be guided by the knowledge, skill, and value outcomes in the curriculum.
Structure for Debate (brief overview)
A formal debate usually involves three groups:
Is it possible, may be we need to change the name back to "Christian Discourse", Christian Dialogue, or to "Christian Discussion", if we can? Perhaps, to a name that's more inclusive of those that are unskilled in debate tactics? A new name search can be conducted if the "power-to-be", sees light in my suggestions by way of observations. Or maybe, we can add a new category on how to become a "Master-Debater".
Let keep it real. Is not a name or a sign should give an indication of its services or the content within? Do our Are our current make-up of users capable of fulfilling what is advertised ("debate") to others? Is the current name ("Christian Debate") is an objective or a present reality?
No one need to take offense. I am not trying to take over or change everything. Like in any business or quest to attract users or customers there needs to be some kind of Introspection, Intraspection, Extrospection, evaluation, analysis, etc. The current CD shouldn't requires less.
As I stated sometime ago and worth repeating here:
I know the name of this site is called Christian Debate. Do we have to debate everything? I hope this doesn't means non-debaters are not welcome and there's no room in these forums for them. Can't one simply make a contribution to the topic, rather it's developed or not? Why there seems to be no room for one to supply materials for those who bent on debating, to supply fuel as one shovels wood chips into a furnace. Must every thought be a finished product? From the pattern of things, no minds are changed or seems willing to be changed. We're all amateurs when it comes to God's knowledge and wisdom. CM
I am compelled to refer to another of my earlier posts:
"I am not a debater, trained as a debater, known as a debater, studying debating, or am I a son of a debater. From what I have experienced, there are many others share my status, in these forums, rather they care to admit it or not. I am a proclaimer of biblical truth. Yes, I am aware of the name of this site ("Christian Debate")...
"It's appropriate to ask at this point. Are the users of this site compelled to adhere to the high school or collegiate debating rules? Are we saddling this cite and these forums with rank debating guidelines? If so, are we shooting ourselves in the foot? Are people turned off before they come on board? No one wants to enter a public form where they would feel inadequate, unskilled or "picked on" because portions of their journey or belief system is still evolving. I personally don't feel this way, but I can imagine others feeling so. Are we aware that there are many for readers of these forums and than those who, actually, participates? When the name changed from "Christian Discourse" (Old CD), Christian Discussion", to "Christian Debate", I was concern that the later name sends out a message for ONLY people with speciality or universal skills in this area. This is plausible when one has a viable pool or people group to draw. What's in a name? A name carries weight long before a person experiences the good therein... I know it could be frustrating to have so much training and skills as a debater with no one to match wit with. A skilled debater among so many non-debaters, what a predicament to be in!
"Reality Check: which is more likely to happen first? Non-debaters becoming skilled debaters or skilled debaters being patience with the non-debaters?...
What meaningful suggestions can you contribute on how to make the forums more accurately reflective of its name? Yet, at the same time, what can we do to be inclusive of unskilled debaters? Or, should CD limits its users to skilled debaters?
You may ask, why this, why now? I would respond and conclude with the following:
“Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Until your good is better and your better is best.”
A new day, a new way. What do you have to say? -- CM