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Exactly, that isn't stated in canonical Scripture at all, but rather in the later tradition and interpretations of Latin writers from the 3rd century onward most notably Tertullian.
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What is the Daniel gap?
Are you referring division(gap) between the Hebrew text found in chapter 1 and the Aramaic text spanning from chapter 2 to 7, with the Masoretic text reverting back to classical Hebrew from chapter 8 til…
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It is not just true, it is a fact.
One, the word Trinity is nowhere to be found in the Bible, and two the word/term 'Person' is never once used in the Bible to describe God.
Things/concepts in the Bible that are clearly…
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> @reformed said:
> You can argue the same for the Trinity.
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I agree with you on this line of thought.
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Thanks for summarizing Gao!
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In my opinion, this is a salient point for those who claim to hold to sola scriptura to keep in mind.
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In that case, Jesus would be born with sin too since he came into the world as a baby being born from a sinful human woman, who had also been born with sin according to the inherited sin theory.
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I coined or am borrowing the terms 'inherited guilt' to refer to what the author of post#3 of this thread described. There it appeared that the author was speaking of the descendants of Adam being branded as because of Adam's sin even …
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I agree calling Babies sinners simply does not make sense unless someone has new definition of what it means to be a sinner.
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Thanks for the post Gao!
However, the evil inclination is not necessarily the same as the concept of “inherited guilt”. And neither of those two concepts are the same as Total depravity.
Currently, I am only addressing the concept…
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Hello CM
Thanks for the post above and for starting this thread.
I think people who argue for the theory of that all born babies(humans) have collectively "inherited guilt" of Adam's sin forget that Jesus/Yeshua was also born as a…
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> Docetism is different than believing the sin nature is passed down through men.
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Thanks but the above but I am not sure that address Docetism assuming that is the term I used that you are referring to if it is not then I apologize for the assumption.
Docetism is the idea that Jesus wa…
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Jesus(Yeshua) did not exist as a human being before Adam through Mary sure. However, the human Yeshua/Jesus was according to Luke 3:38 born of Mary a descent of Adam and unless one accepts so sort of docetism.
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When understood in that light Jesus being a child of Adam according to Luke 3:38 would also be considered sinful.
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I do not have any idea what is meant by being in Adam?
But, I do know that according to Luke 3:38 Jesus' lineage can be traced back to Adam the son of God. And, I think it follows if Adams descents are considered to be sinners…
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None of the above has anything to do with my point. My point was in trying to understand and appropriate the theory Dave presented in the third post of this thread. It seems to me if that theory is accepted it logically follows that Je…
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The virgin was still a descent of Adam (and as you claimed would be constituted a sinner at birth) and therefore her son would also be a descent of Adam and constituted as a sinner from birth according to the theory you presented in th…
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This means that Jesus being born of a descent of Adam the woman (Mary) would also be constituted as a sinner as well. If so Jesus cannot be said to be sinless.
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In Japan Child adoption is rare, but the adoption of Adults is a lot more common.
"Nearly 300 children in the nation’s orphanages over the past two years could not be put up for adoption because consent from their biological parents could…
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Thank you for your reply and for sharing your story!!!
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I am not sure what the user named Reform means by the term 'liberals' when used to describe, label or maybe attempt to pigeonhole users like Bill Coley:
(Quote)in Why Are Some Kids Not Being Reunited At Border? Comment by Mitchell July 2018
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Greetings Dave,
And thanks for visiting this thread and adding the following thought:
(Quote)I think the above response matters because:
(ONE) it actually touches on the Question asked in the OP.
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Although not written to me I found your post to be a helpful contribution to this discussion. Thank you for sharing the following I can personally relate
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Greetings GaoLu,
(Quote)I understand
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Thanks for taking the time to view the video Bill Coley!
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Exactly, and that is precisely the point of my second post on this thread!
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Now, back to the question:
Does one have to Believe in the Trinity to be Saved? **
Or, **at the moment one is constituted as saved how much does he/she have to understand
