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There's a difference between an object, and the light that the object emits.
Suppose God created a new star with the appearance of being old at a distance of one billion light years away at a time 6000 years ago.
This s…
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It's not so easy at all. There's a difference between the age of the stars and the age of the starlight. A newly created star might look old, but there's no way that newly created starlight can "appear" old. Watch the video with the de…
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Fully agreed to that. But also, if one receives the gift of tongues, and refuses to let it "just happen", that would be quenching of the Spirit.
The Bible is very clear that only some had/have the gift of tongues, not everybody…
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I've witnessed multiple occasions of tongues with interpretation, all of which occurred in churches that follow the instructions given in 1 Corinthians.
Can there be proof for any gift, be it a charismatic gift or a commonly ac…
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As I said, it's the stars that convinced me of OEC. There is plenty of scientific evidence that the stars were not made one day prior to the plants.
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I'm not so sure that "the evangelicals" don't have the gift of tongues.
Dr. Kendall has is (free evangelical). I think it's in the following sermon, but since I've listened to so many of them I'm not 100% certain:
(Quote)I don't think there is, but the debate is only about 2 hours and a bit. Afterwards, there are reactions by other astrophysicists, and responses to their reactions. You could just skip the final three hours, and still get most of the in…
(Quote)No, I don't blame the churchgoers at all. I'd blame both mainline pastors who quench the Spirit, and charismatic pastors who abuse the Spirit, be it in America, Europe, or elsewhere. Scripture judges them both.
(Quote)No, I don't agree, not any more anyway. I once was a YEC and held the view of six contiguous 24-hour days creation.
Why I no longer hold this view I'm happy to explain. The problem is day 4 (creation of the stars). The furthest…
(Quote)I say you can't generalize. According to RT Kendall, the charismatic movement in America is far more on the loony fringe than in Europe. My experience in charismatic churches in Europe has been a quite balanced one, that charismatic ch…
The Hebrew word yom can have four meanings:
- a portion of a day
- sunrise to sunset
- sunset to sunset
- any segment of time (e.g. Genesis 2:4)
Many prophets used the word yom to indicate extremely lo…
Let's call it "debate". That's much friendlier than arguing, but would still be an exchange of arguments, and not just only views.
As a continuationist my understanding of these verses is as follows:
The key to 1 Corinthians 13:9-10 is 1 Corinthians 13:12. The whole context is that of now vs. eternity, when we see Jesus face to face. This is when "completion comes".<…
The Hebrew word Yom can mean all kinds of time periods, and only in roughly half of all occurrences means a literal 24 hour period.
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Okay, done.
I can't find the duplicate. Please send me a link, and I'll delete it.Thanks! We've just arrived. Very nice place.Okay, I'm off on a week's holiday. If this thread will still be going on next weekend, I'll be back to it.
(Quote)There are indeed many verses in the NT that describe Jesus as human.
That does not mean these verses make clear that Jesus was not God. They make clear that he was human. That's an entirely different message, and no contradicti…
(Quote)Unless you can provide evidence, that in Greek you can separate the statement in two, this is not what I'm doing.
(Quote)I agree that the statement is of the same quality as "I am the vine" etc. Purely linguistically and logically, I don't see a problem to place such statement before something that existed in the past.
If Jesus is the vine, indep…
Since I don't speak Greek, I can only contribute my linguistic understanding of the English translation.
My understanding is that present tense can be used in at least two different senses:
1. Something that is currently at the pres…He affirmed when the Jews asked him whether he had seen Abraham, but let's not split hairs over that.
He clearly claimed that before Abraham was, he is.If this is just in the sense of a word or a thought, why did Jesus use present …
Okay then, if there's no difference in the foreknowledge and (non-)pre-existence, why can Jesus claim that he has seen Abraham, and even claim "before Abraham was, I am".
If there's no difference, I could claim the same, and be as right a…
So am I understanding right that you're saying that before Jesus' conception, he only existed as "foreknown thought", or a word?
How is that in any way different from the foreknowledge God had about the rest of us before the foundation of…
Matthew writes about the "beginning" of the human Jesus Christ. John demonstrates that the pre-incarnate Jesus Christ has no "beginning".
So Wolfgang, what you're saying is then that the Logos in John 1:1-3 is not Jesus, but literally God…
(Quote)There really is only one meaningful definition of "coming into being": Something that does not exist, and some time later does exist, comes into being..
The Bible text doesn't speak about Jesus coming into being.
The au…
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I think it's possible.
https://help.github.com/articles/organizing-information-with-tables/Test:
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