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Hi CM.. I don't know of anything local but I think Ouija board and Tarot Card readers are forms of it. Also I believe false prophets misuse scripture as a fortune telling means when they take prophetic scripture from its context and ap…
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““ ‘A man or woman who has in them a spirit of the dead or a familiar [family] spirit must be put to death. They must pelt them with stones; their blood guilt is on themselves.’ ”” (Leviticus 20:27)
The prohibi…
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You could easily grasp what I mean if you wanted to.
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Plurality in the ONE Godhead.
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You must interpret the OT by the NT. The plurality of the Godhead is abundantly clear when you see it in this manner.
Plurality in the Godhead OT
“And God (plural) said, Let us (plural) make man in our (plural) image (…
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How far would you get if you called three witnesses to the stand? The baker, the custodian, and the clerk. And they were all the same person? Three witnesses? A "oneness" shyster might try this but it wouldn't suit the jury.
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Doesn't this single passage destroy your non trinitarian position? I also have some other questions about your beliefs later.
“It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of…
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Christianity is the only religion to worship God in trinity. Any calling themselves Christians who do not, do not belong to Christendom but are a cult of Christendom.
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Why does all of Christendom see the trinity and you do not? Have they been wrong all this time and you and your little sect are now right? Extreme hubris on your part?
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You see what you want to see. But you do not want to see the three persons scripture calls God present all at once during Jesus' baptism. Or you would acknowledge it.
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Have you always been UPC? Or did you opt for being UPC after studying beyond it's confines?
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It is only opposite the biblical data if you want it to be. We have three persons, each called God present at Jesus' baptism. And two persons called God present on the mount of transfiguration. Oneness is more like Islam than it is Chr…
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What is your objection? State it clearly and I'll see if I can contribute.
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I don't know why you or anyone else on the CD forum would assume crackpot status applies to them upon mention of the term.
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“And God (plural) said, Let us (plural) make man in our (plural) image (singular), after our (plural) likeness: and let them (plural) have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over …
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Just that Christianity is the only religion to worship God in trinity. And for good reason. It's the main doctrine that separates us from the Unitarians, Muslims, Jews... etc.
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I think we see evidence of my claims everywhere today.
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I don't see the creeds in anyway contradicting scripture. And as I recall they denounce having three separate gods.
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Too often though the bible is nothing more than a giant Rorschach Test fro religious crackpots. Obviously.....
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But we need to begin where it makes the most sense. The bible is like a maze full of dead ends that people can waste a lifetime of searching through to no avail. But we have centuries of learning we can fall back on and use as an ancho…
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Why launch any study without asking the best place to begin? Studied teachers are the most logical place to begin. Especially after enduring grueling debates challenging their beliefs and winning.
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You can skip college and read books learning on your own. Or you can study under the masters and gain centuries of insight probably not available to the do-it-yourself guys.
This speaks of the volumes of learning and debates it…
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If you begin with the Ecumenical creeds, you can gain a biblical perspective on God in trinity, Christ as God and Man, the Deity of Christ and Sin. They are an eye opener.
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This type of information is concealed in books a person must read before knowing anything about it. This might explain your puzzled response.
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If you consider Jesus (God) filtered through human nature, it makes sense. His human nature had the same restrictions we have. Only without sin. As the Son of God he was causing the universe to exist. But as the Son of Man, he began le…
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God works ALL after the council of his own (not our or anybody else's) will. How can anything cause anything and God remain Omnipotent in any true sense?
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Not one grain of sand moves anywhere in the universe without God having caused (created) the movement from eternity.
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People freely choose all that they choose for the reasons God provides for them to base their choices on. In this he controls you, manipulating you into his planned outcome for you. Paul says he works ALL things after the council of hi…
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People freely chose for the reasons God uses to control their choices. You always choose for a reason under God's control that he uses to determine your free choice.
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Thanks Jan!
