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I would submit this for starters.
“as we wait for the happy fulfillment of our hope in the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.” (Titus 2:13) (NET)
"The terms “God and Savior” both refer to the same person…
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truly God and truly man, of a reasonable [rational] soul and body;
If Jesus did not have a human soul, he did not have a fully human nature.
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Chalcedonian Creed
We, then, following the holy Fathers, all with one consent, teach people to confess one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, the same perfect in Godhead and also perfect in manhood;
truly God and …
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We are body, soul and spirit. Jesus became body, soul, through Mary, and remained eternally Spirit (God). That is, his Spirit or person is eternal YHWH.
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Informative. Jesus taught non-violence and mobility. The early christians always fled violence, never defending worldly kingdoms. So perhaps these are just another part of the world system God uses to protect those who actually follow Christ?
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Thanks BK. If you think about it, the world exists for the sake of the Church. When the last of the elect come into Christ, the world ends. God says he will bless those who bless us, and curse those who curse us. And perhaps worldly Israel is rea…
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Thanks for the napkin illustration. JWs have a safe zone they like to stick to. They have their well rehearsed topics and know what you plan to say before you say it. But I found if you drag them into theological areas they do not understand, it …
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I believe Wolfgang is right in saying today's "Israel" is not in any way biblical Israel. The Church is. But I think Palestinian Christians, as with Christians anywhere should not defend worldly governments, but submit to whatever government God …
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Jeremiah and Hebrews say I'm right. I'm not alone in this Theology. Consider the Protestant Reformed Church and their views on Divorce and Remarriage. Albertus Pieters (western Reformed Theological seminary), especially "The Seed of Ab…
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The New Covenant totally replaced the Old Covenant AKA the Ten Commandments.
““Indeed, a time is coming,” says the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah.It will not be like the old covenant …
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The Pharisees challenged Jesus about divorce according to Moses. Jesus pointed out how wrong they were. Jesus abolished Mosaic Law on the cross. Even if the Reformed were right about the moral law continuing, which they are not, they s…
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Jesus replaced the Old Covenant on the cross, not before. And then it began phasing out ending at the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.
We are not under the Old Covenant, and especially the divorce laws tolerated by Moses.
God to…
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Yes, and I've already proven the "except clause" is void of meaning. Because the innocent wife, and the man she marries, commit adultery even though she was divorced by an adulterous husband.
And this was OT law now defunct, re…
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If Christ abolished the Old Covenant, at least the civil and ceremonial law according to the Reformed, then divorce does not exist as an option in the New Covenant. And nowhere does Jesus or the NT writers import it. Divorce doesn't ex…
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It does not. The New Covenant replaced the Old, and divorce did not find its way into the New. Paul speaks of unbelievers divorcing believers. But never believers divorcing unbelievers or believers.
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How can you divorce and forgive? Forgiveness means you do not divorce.
The Old Covenant no longer applies. Only the New Covenant applies to the Church. There is no provision for divorce by a believer in it.
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GaoLu, great hearing from you, we've missed you!
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We've been turning several stones in this discussion. What about the WCF's permission of divorce on grounds of adultery? Wouldn't this be a damnable heresy in that divorce involves unforgiveness, and we must forgive before God will for…
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You're all hat and no cattle Reformed. Simply back your claims with scripture and the ranch is yours.
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We have not seen any scriptural support from you proving we are still under the Old Covenant, or even part of it.
We have not seen any scriptural support saying Christians can Not Forgive and divorce each other.
We have not seen a…
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We are quite on topic. I presented 4 problems with your view, we are discussing a second problem at this time. Prove from scripture Christians can divorce Christians. Or provide examples from Holy Writ where they did. Jesus abolished d…
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“He has destroyed what was against us, a certificate of indebtedness expressed in decrees opposed to us. He has taken it away by nailing it to the cross.” (Colossians 2:14) (NET)
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“Indeed, a time is coming,” says the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah.It will not be like the old covenant that I made with their ancestors when I delivered them from Egypt. For they violated t…
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If Jesus abolished divorce along with the Old Covenant on the cross, which he did, nobody teaches it as an option for Christians. And all who divorce are not divorced in God's sight. But are guilty of unforgiveness and adultery if the …
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This means, nobody in the NT teaches your position.............
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Thanks for your continued interest in this. I'm saying Jesus abolished divorce when he abolished the Law on the cross. This means, people marry for life without any NT provision for divorce. If God provided for divorce under the New Covenant, we …
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Find an example of Christians divorcing Christians in the NT. We have mention of unbelievers divorcing believers. But that is all.
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The NT does not provide for divorce. Paul says if an unbeliever divorces a believer, the believer is not under bondage to them. But the believer must remain single. When Jesus abolished the Old Covenant, he did not import divorce, whic…
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The Ten Commandments were the Old Covenant. This included all of the peripheral laws as well.
“And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables …
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Divorce was part of the OT civil law.
