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The Pharisees "Christ" did not match the true Christ so they rejected him. They worshipped satan by default thinking they worshipped God.
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Believing in your idea of Christ does not mean you believe in Christ. The Pharisees all believed in Christ, just not the true Christ.
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That's OK. It tells me you can understand the truth when you hear it. But think of it this way, if you save yourself by thinking or doing certain things, then salvation is for the self-righteousness (Pelaginaism).
If, on the ot…
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Your translation says the same.
Rom 10,9-10 That if thou are saved thou can confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and can believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead.
(Quote)We can view this passage two ways. Legalistically, if you do this or that, God will save you. This is salvation by self-righteousness. Or, if you do this or that, it means God saved you, or you would not be doing it. This is salvation …
(Quote)I think the biblical position and the ice cold logic of Calvinism come together at points. But I think Calvinism makes knowing some truth apart from knowing Christ possible. This would speak for the thousands whom the Calvinists murder…
Salvation is by grace. You must be saved before you can believe. The reason is, faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit which you must have before faith comes into existence.
Truth finds a way. We often begin in darkness but eventually find a…
(Quote)You cannot understand scripture unless you understand the Trinity and the deity of Christ.
(Quote)Just sayin'
(Quote)You cannot understand scripture unless you understand the Trinity and the deity of Christ.
(Quote)Peter baptized in the personal name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - Jesus Christ.
(Quote)You cannot understand scripture unless you understand the Trinity and the deity of Christ.
(Quote)By this I'm showing God is one Spirit with three distinct, coeternal persons called Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
This is why it comes back to Peter and the early Church baptizing converts in the Name of Jesus Christ. Fulfilling Jesus' command to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All of whom scripture identifies as God. Each simultaneo…
The early church didn't have the Kenosis Theory. "kenoticism is usually associated with a group of German theologians in the mid-19th century: G. Thomassius (1802–75), F. H. R. von Frank (1827–94) and W. F. Gess (1819–91) and a group of British …
(Quote)(Quote)Thanks, I think this is spot on.
(Quote)It still comes down to not being able to trust amateurs when the many pros contradict them.
(Quote)Wouldn't amateurs and language buffs be an even higher risk? I can think of three independent sources that agree with Jude 5 as being Jesus and Titus 2:13 saying Jesus is God.
Here's another with multiple pros involved.
Here's another problem for your views rejecting Christ and his divinity.
“as we wait for the happy fulfillment of our hope in the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.” (Titus 2:13)
So we come back around to the amateurs know more than the Greek language pros?
The problem with your approach is that any one of my single verses that say Jesus is God, totally refutes your interpretation of all of your texts. It is not expedient trying to wade through your mess of tangles playing by your rules, that only o…
I would still like to see WS' or BC's strongest proof text against the deity of Christ. If we could show an alternative view, perhaps everyone would be the better.
tn Or “faith in Christ.” A decision is difficult here. Though traditionally translated “faith in Jesus Christ,” an increasing number of NT scholars are arguing that πίστις Χριστοῦ (pistis Christou) and similar phrases in Paul (here and in v. 26; …
Here's a few trinitarian verses I ran across today. Not looking for them, but scripture is rich with them if you know how to spot them.
“Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me? The words that …
(Quote)But this creeps me out. If Jesus is merely a man and not God, then we are possessed by another human being who is not omnipresent. But Jesus, the omnipresent God inhabits all of those born of his Spirit.
The pros say you are wrong, hands down, every time. If you had any background in ancient greek, we might take you more seriously when you contradict the specialists.
(Quote)If you were a greek scholar of a similar standing to those performing some of our better translations, we might trust your opinion. But the pros are against you. We have many passages clearly showing Christ's deity. Consider wrangling …
(Quote)Just sayin'.............
(Quote)Thanks for providing this. If it's OK, I'll add it to my notes.
