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These are interesting but the Reformed, and Dispensationalists depend on a skewed interpretation of the law and institutional religion. They shoot their own feet out from under them if they fully take Paul at his word.
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What do you think. They = broken off Jews who were then Jews under the Law. But are now gentiles after that last genuinely circumcised generation died off.
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This still assumes a believing Israel under Christ, aka the Church (congregation of the Lord). And the broken off unbelievers not being members except those who accept Christ as the Messiah.
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In Romans 11 Paul says: “Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the n…
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BTW it's good hearing from you again! The problem with your view is that There is only one Israel and one Messiah. They both go together. So those who rejected Jesus forfeited their citizenship in Israel. But God will re-attach any who…
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In Romans 11 God grafts broken off unbelievers into what? If they accept Christ. What does God graft believing gentiles into? After designating the space formerly occupied by the unbelievers, theirs?
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This is all fine, but if Paul says the broken off will be reattached through faith, doesn't this also make Jesus and Christendom biblical Israel?
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I'm interested in your understanding of Romans 11. The way I see it, the broken off unbelievers are reattached through faith. Wouldn't this make Jesus Israel, as Paul and Matthew affirm?
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Is Jesus Abraham's seed (singular)? If so, he is Israel. Who does Matthew say Jesus is?
“When Israel was a child, then I loved him, And called my son out of Egypt.” (Hosea 11:1)
“And [Jesus] was there u…
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But we miss the mark dragging old concepts in need of new definitions into Revelation. Learn what Jesus says about the OT topics first, then go to Revelation.
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Scripture affirms Jesus IS Israel and the broken off unbelievers are gentiles.
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"But he spake of the temple of his body.” (John 2:19–21)
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“Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of h…
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If Jesus is the Temple along with us, how do you drag a physical temple into the mix? Or if Jesus IS Israel, wouldn't that change the landscape quite a bit? "" "" ""
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According to Jesus the wise man built upon him. The fool did not. What's the difference? The wise man heard and did what Jesus (YHWH) said. The fool heard but did not do.
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If you do not redefine OT words and concepts according to the NT, you drag false concepts and prophecy into Revelation and add to John's words and meanings. John sternly warns against adding or taking away from the Book.
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I agree for the most part with the idea. But we cannot import OT terms without first running them through Christ and the NT writers who redefine them for us.
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I said Revelation is a Rorschach Test for every crackpot out there. Meaning people use it this way to project unsound scriptural ideas. Margaret MacDonald's hallucinations about a pre-trib rapture, while burning up with a fever is a pe…
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It's all up for grabs. Revelation is nothing more than a Rorschach Test for religious crackpots unless held in strict compliance with Jesus' teaching on the Kingdom and Paul's teaching on Israel.
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One cannot understand Revelation without defining the terms. and Jesus does this for us in most cases. So if you drag old Jewish ideas into Revelation, you will miss its meaning completely.
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It's the end of the world. And the beginning of the new heavens and earth where neither conservatives or liberals exist.
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You are the one without scriptural support for your claims. I need not shift anything. I'm trying to draw you out and make you prove what you say from scripture.
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If you believe in a 7 year tribulation, prove it with direct scriptural support saying so. Or, do the same if you believe in a pre-trib Rapture. Or any direct quotes supporting a gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th weeks.....
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Your reaction and lack of scriptural support for your position only bolsters my position.
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I think we are making progress in disproving physical kingdom theories, the more we share our views and how we react to each other's challenges.
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You are expecting more than what scripture allows for.
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All is true and has been the case since Jesus first preached the gospel of the kingdom. If you are truly "Reformed", you should know that "nations" = the elect throughout the world. And the gospel binds Satan from keeping them from Chr…
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Look at it this way. God rules the universe and the earth is his foot stool. Jesus is God. So he already does what people ignore and want him to do in a future kingdom lasting a measly 1000 years wracked with sin and death. Which is im…
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Thanks for your interest in my end times position.
I hold most of the Amillennial views. So if you study Amillennialism, you can gain more insight than what I can present here.
I wouldn't hold to the position if I didn'…
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Satan is perfectly bound by the gospel and that is all Revelation requires. Nations = fulfillment of Abraham's promise. When he is loosed, he will attack the kingdom with lies, siphoning off all but the truly born again. (happening now…
