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David, see my reply to Jan who first asked the question about proof for house churches being the norm.
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The NT mentions house churches several times. And the persecution from the Jews would suggest the synagogues became hostile to Christians over time. Also the poverty of the Jerusalem church would suggest low overhead meeting places. Th…
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Christendom represents all nations and we can see the blessing of Abraham on all as a result of the spread of the gospel.
Satan lies, but the gospel is the antidote for his lies. And in this sense the gospel is the chain that b…
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Jesus spoke of his kingdom as a present reality. ““The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it.” (Luke 16:16)
And he said his kingdom is not of …
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Isn't that what we are both saying? Our bodies are sown in corruption and raised in glory?
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What Jesus speaks of is a spiritual kingdom. He never mentions a future physical kingdom. In fact he says his kingdom is not of this world (age). That leaves only the new heavens and earth (the age ((world)) to come.) But a physical Mi…
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What do you think Paul is saying?
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Black Gospel (provided the lyrics square with the truth) is the most moving for me. Historians say the Church gave us music. But I've always said the black church gave us really good music.
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Your argument is with Paul. I cannot change what he wrote.
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Revelation 20 describes the spiritual kingdom outlined in the NT as a present reality. But it does not jive with a literal physical kingdom nowhere found in the NT.
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You are reading into the text. All of this is happening now, not sometime in the future in a physical kingdom.
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There is no mention of a millennial kingdom anywhere in scripture. And Revelation 20 certainly doesn't mention a kingdom.
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“it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living person”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.” (1…
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I believe the house church with volunteer self employed elders was the norm in the NT. And it would follow that when an assembly outgrew the house, another autonomous congregation would develop down the road so to speak. And so on.
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I don't presently have a church. But I've spent a great deal of time in "all of the above" over the years. I believe the most spiritual and closest to the NT model is the house church, similar to the Wednesday night cottage prayer meeting.
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I'm saying that our bodies must undergo transformation before we can enter the New Heavens and Earth on the last day. And our bodies will be like Jesus' glorified body.
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In the context of Revelation 20 the angel, the serpent, the chain, the bottomless pit are all symbols. The 1000 years being among them is no doubt symbolic too.
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“In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on i…
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But we must be careful not to add or take away from the book. And if Revelation depends on symbols as John says it does, we should be careful when forcing a literal interpretation into his vision.
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Why do the saints who are translated after the resurrection receive glorified bodies like Christs'?
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A perfect human body without decay.
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There is no mention of a millennial kingdom anywhere in scripture.
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Jesus said a spirit has not flesh and bones in speaking about his resurrection. But Paul also says flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. And that when Jesus returns we will have a glorified or immortal body like his.
(Quote)The "millennial" Kingdom gospel is not what Jesus preached. It is a different gospel.
(Quote)Possibly a new thread for personal testimonies?
(Quote)No. But flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of Heaven where he now resides.
(Quote)I think the cosmological argument works well. But I simply present the reason why I believe God exists based on years of personal experiences that are difficult to explain apart from him.
(Quote)No. Paul says “For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby h…
(Quote)One problem is the Gospel of the Kingdom. Present VS future making two different gospels of the Kingdom.
(Quote)I do not think scripture supports this. That is, without transformation, the physical body cannot inherit the kingdom of Heaven.
