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Please show examples of Jesus or any of the NT believers doing what you would do in a violent situation.
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“For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
Who did no sin, (if Jesus says to love our enemies, it is sin if we do not) neither was gu…
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If you carefully read the Sermon, Jesus says to love our enemies. He also tells us not to resist (physical) evil (violence) when hit on the face, but to turn the other cheek too. If we cannot do this, we will never be able to do what d…
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Love your enemies? Do not resist violence? Put away your sword? etc. etc...
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The Sermon is the converse of the Law. And it forms the entire NT ethic.
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No matter how you approach it, NT Christians have no involvement with killing for any reason.
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If you read the Ten Commandments and then read the Sermon on the Mount, and the rest of the NT, Jesus teaches us to do the exact opposite of what the Commandments tell us not to do. Do not steal = give. Do not kill = bless. Do not cove…
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Rather than argue word meanings, let's look at what James says and then ask, who might this apply to today?
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I do not. But I understand it at at two different levels. One level aimed at the wicked. And another level aimed at the born again. You abuse it if you try to make Christians employ it as the wicked do.
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The Zealots were violent. I'm not. Nor is anyone who follows Christ.
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Isn't James speaking about the Zealot types? Similar to our own Zealot types?
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How does any of the NT disagree with the Sermon on the Mount?
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I wish it was my opinion and I was wrong. But you cannot hold your present course and follow Jesus at the same time.
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You cannot justify killing because criminals do it. How do you fit in with James' view?
“From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: ye…
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How can you follow Christ and do the exact opposite?
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“For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he …
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It equips carnal minded people for killing under what they think are justifiable reasons.
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In view of Jesus' stated purpose for coming to earth, I believe we should always ask if our doctrinal or political positions tend to abundant life or detract from it.
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I understand the law of Christ.
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Jesus disagrees with you too:
“The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” (John 10:10)
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Do you think more dead innocent people is better than less? If no, take that position about reeling in the wild abuse of the 2nd amendment.
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We know people by their fruits. And no matter your motive, your position ends with more innocent people losing their lives than not.
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You are part of the killing if you help create and maintain the environment for it....
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The present gun laws allow for weapons designed to kill the maximum number of people in the least amount of time, without being classified as machine guns. People want to change this.
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How can trying to pass laws that kill less people than more people not be of interest to Christians who are not to kill at all????
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That would be great!
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Thou shalt not kill. Or set the stage so others can.......
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“For the law brings wrath, because where there is no law there is no transgression either.” (Romans 4:15)
So God created Adam sinless. But we also know Adam had the law written in his heart. But how could he sin against it, if …
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That's an interesting video. Who's the closest to heaven? Jesus says drunks and prostitutes are closer than the good guys, because they know how sinful they are.
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Thanks for joining in. It is controlled disagreement between us that helps get to the bottom of the issues.
