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John tells us the serpent is a symbol.“And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,” (Revelation 20:2)
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If the serpent is a symbol. The angel is a symbol, the chain is a symbol, the bottomless pit a symbol, etc., why isn't the 1000 year a symbol?
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The 1000 years are not literal years. They are the symbol for Satan's binding. Are the green horses literal? The red dragon? How about the chain that binds Satan who is a spirit?
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No, you reject Jesus' words and agree with the pharisees instead.
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No, that's why I shudder when you add to it.
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no millennium, zero. Jesus rules it out many times if you carefully read your Gospels.
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There is only one spiritual kingdom and no physical kingdom possible in this world. So your point is pointless.
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Regardless of all the maneuvers to prove your point, the kingdom is here now. It is spiritual, and only the born again can see it. Are you born again? If so, it is discernible now.
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There is no millennium. How can I agree with any of your points.
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Thanks for pointing this out.
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I agree.
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Thanks GaoLu, I don't know anyone personally so I just stick to the bible related posts and mark the rest read.
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You think the 1000 years are the kingdom = the kingdom ends with the 1000 years.
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If flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom, only glorified saints are there when Satan is loosed.
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Your questions are loaded according to your misunderstanding of the kingdom.
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If the 1000 years are the kingdom as you say, they end when Satan is loosed. But we know this isn't true, because the kingdom is forever.
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I don't think your questions can be answered in a way that scripture supports. So I'll say this. Jesus said the kingdom is present, it is spiritual, flesh and blood cannot enter it, it comes without observation, and people must be born…
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What happens when the 1000 years end? Satan Loosed? Or kingdom ends? If the 1000 years are the kingdom, it ends.
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I mentioned this. The saints rule over Satan in his binding.
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Let's not read anything into the passage and see what it says. The 1000 years are the binding of Satan. When they end Satan is loosed. The saints reign over him in this binding.
The 1000 years are not the kingdom.<…
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It says nothing about a physical 1000 year long kingdom if you consider the New Testament as the final authority.
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The Nicene Creed
[Jesus] and ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge both the living and the dead;** Whose kingdom shall have no end.**
Note how…
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except, he doesn't mention one.
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You must limit Revelation 20 to what Jesus says about the kingdom being spiritual. And not drag pharisaic physical kingdom concepts into it. If you do, you add to the book.
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Please help us identify this evil so we can avoid it.
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I don't think you can refute may claim that scripture nowhere presents a physical kingdom in this world, in the present (Postmillennialism) or future (Premillennialism/Dispensationalism). If you could, this conversation would not have …
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Where does NT scripture mention another kingdom?
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If Jesus says his kingdom comes without observation. That it is not of this world, and only the born again can see it, and flesh and blood cannot enter it, etc. It certainly refutes all you believe in the matter.
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I might have posted this before, but it shows the kingdom is purely spiritual.
“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2) (KJV 1900)
“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the…
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How do you prove there isn't a millennium? By its absence in Jesus' teaching. That's how.