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In my sermon prep today, I ran a passage that I don't remembering citing in previous debates about the divinity of Jesus, so I offer it here: John 7.14-19, particularly John 7.16-18.... (emphasis added)
(Quote)I contend that in those …
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I contend that on the question of Jesus' divinity, the clear message of Peter's Acts 2 sermon, particularly Acts 2.22-24, is that Jesus was NOT God, a claim that clearly contradicts the assertion you and many others make, that Jesus WA…
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Your response surprises me, David. You seem to say that in Acts 2.22-24 (and for that matter, throughout his sermon found in Acts 2) Peter withheld from his audience the truth about Jesus' divine identity - that is, he gave them the f…
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I asked David to post "a direct and substantive response" that explained Peter's point of view as to whether Jesus was God in Acts 2.22-24. What you have provided, Gao, Lu, has substance, but that substance concerns a text from 2 Peter…
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You get direct, substantive responses from me. I get "I choose not to waste my time" from you.
Here's my challenge to you, David: In a direct and substantive response, explain why Peter's declaration about Jesus in Acts 2.22-24…
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I don't have time to engage your post at any depth, David, but I do have time to point out the irony of your expressing concern for what you call my "proof texts," immediately before asking me to respond to... proof texts of your own.<…
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John doesn't say the spirit of Antichrist is those who deny that the Messiah is "God in person." He says the Antichrist is one who denies the Father and the Son. I don't deny "the Father" (Jesus' name for God) and I don't deny "the Son…
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What you describe in your post, Wolfgang, certainly SEEMS to be what's happened in the case of Dave's raising Romans 8.9 to our consideration. He raised the verse, but hasn't mentioned it since. Something very similar seems to have ha…
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What you describe in your post, Wolfgang, certainly SEEMS to be what's happened in the case of Dave's raising Romans 8.9 to our consideration. He raised the text, but hasn't mentioned it since!
Something very similar seems to h…
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I find your response here baffling, David - in that YOU'RE the one who created this thread and invited us to discuss Isaiah 9.6 - but not surprising - in that over the years you have refused more than a few of my requests for evidence …
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Apparently what you're NOT willing to "bat around," Dave, is the verse YOU brought into this thread (Romans 8.9) as support for your view that Jesus is God. My goodness, you're not even willing to tell us why you raised it for our cons…
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My "logic," Dave, rests on the Romans 8 text to which YOU referred in an earlier post, and that text's context in its chapter. I'm therefore surprised to read your glib description of our exchange on that text as the "bat(ting) around"…
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This is the kind of meticulous analysis that separates your posts from most others', David.
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There doesn't seem to be a way to link to a specific post in these threads as there was in the ChristianDiscourse forums, so here's the post to which I refer, in full quotation. I have added emphasis to the time-frame analysis I raised…
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As a result of your post, David, I think I understand your legal strategy - you're going to file a slander lawsuit against Wolfgang because, in your view, he intentionally mischaracterized your position on the Trinity - but I don't und…
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Perhaps C.M. will tell us whether he intended his references to "others" as an invitation to people other than Wolfgang to contribute to the thread he envisions.
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We don't live in "the shadows," C.M. We live our faith, study our Bibles, pray, and love people and serve in the name of Jesus just like you "Bible believing Trinitarians" do. Whether you understand and accept our views is no more or l…
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Thanks for the response, C.M. and for bringing resolution to the matter. I appreciate and accept your apology.
FYI, I was not offended by your previous comments - irritated, yes!
in Is Jesus Deity? Comment by Bill_Coley February 2018
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Whether you "expect much credibility" from my arguments due to my view of the Bible is, yet again, NOT the issue. The issue - as it was and always will be - is whether you fairly and accurately summarized my view of the Bible when you …
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Thanks for sharing your views, Gao Lu.
In my view, the idea that FOR THE PROPHET, his reference in Isaiah 9.6 (and Isaiah 7.14, for that matter) was to a child to be born, potentially, 700 years in the future, does not make sen…
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Presidents don't have the political freedom to "shut down" criminal investigations of which they are a principal subject/target. Revisit the gory details of Richard Nixon's infamous "Saturday Night Massacre" for a reminder as to how we…
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The question is different because what the prophet meant has no necessary connection to what people interpreted him to mean when they read his words 700 or 2,700 years later.
In light of the textual analysis found in the sectio…
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In light of that corrected record, I ask you again: If not to impede, disrupt, or obstruct Mueller's investigation of the Trump campaign's ties to Russia, then why did Trump order Mueller's firing? If it was for a reason unrelated to t…
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Accordingly, in my view, while we can't know the name of the person to whom the verse refers, we can know that said person had already been born when the prophet reported his (likely a male) birth.
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You DO realize that I'm reading this thread too, don't you, C.M.?... Never mind. I already said that.
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At issue here, Gao Lu, is NOT whether you "personally" believe one part of my arguments invalidates and/or contradicts some other part of my arguments. At issue is whether your previously posted characterization of my view of the Bible…
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We disagree.
Twice previously in our exchange I have noted that in addition to firing the director of the FBI which was investigating his campaign's ties with Russia, last summer Trump ALSO ordered the firing of special c…
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@davidtaylorjr said:
(Quote)The president had a right to fire Comey, but not for an improper/illegal purpose. If his purpose was to obstruc…
