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        <title>Savior — Christian Debate</title>
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        <title>Titus 2:13 -- The Smoking Gun -- Jesus is God</title>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>C Mc</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p> Titus 2:13 is found in the middle of a sentence that reaches from vs. 11 through 14, the chain of <strong>genitive nouns </strong>τῆς δόξης τοῦ μεγάλου θεοῦ καὶ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ has divided those who study languages and theologians between three different interpretations: </p><ul><li>(1) The text <strong>refers to both God the Father</strong> (τοῦ μεγάλου θεοῦ) <strong>and to Jesus</strong> (σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ), and the glory that will appear at the Parousia belongs to both of them (cf. KJV) </li><li>(2) The<strong> whole phrase is referring to Jesus Christ</strong>, called <strong><em>“our great God and Savior", </em></strong> whose glory will be seen at His Second Coming.</li><li> (3) <strong>Jesus Christ</strong> is described as “<em>the glory of our great God and Savior</em>.”</li></ul><p>Which of these reflect the truth of Jesus?  Please feel free to share any references or other voices to make your case, pro or con. Let's have a fruitful discussion that leads to better knowledge and understanding. <strong>Thanks CM</strong></p>]]>
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