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        <title>Messiah — Christian Debate</title>
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        <title>Jesus - The Messiah - God?</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2019 07:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Jesus is known for many things and by many titles or names. Many to this day, refuses to acknowledge him as Messiah-Lord-God. Why is this?</p><ul><li>Is Jesus Messiah-King or Messiah-Savior?</li><li>The Messiah-King or Messiah-Savior is God?</li><li>Is Messiah just a human and or divine figure?</li><li>The Messiah is this common-ground between Judaism and Christianity?</li><li>What does the Bible have to say of the "Messiah" in the OT and NT?</li></ul><p>To start, please note, in the OT, Daniel's references to Christ match Him too closely to have been merely the product of human speculation:</p><ul><li><strong>On earth -- </strong>He was one "like a son of the gods" (<strong>Dan 3:25</strong>).</li><li><strong>In heaven </strong>-- "one like a son of man" (<strong>Dan 7:13</strong>). </li><li>In <strong>Daniel. 8</strong> -- we find Him as "the Prince of princes" (<strong>Dan 8:25</strong>).</li><li>In <strong>chap. 9 -- </strong>as "<strong>the Anointed One, the ruler</strong>" (<strong>Dan 9:25</strong>).</li></ul><p><strong>Jesus was the God-man, the Messiah-Prince!</strong></p><p><strong>In addition, </strong>Dan 11:22, at the very center of a narrative spanning all of Dan 10-12, is <strong>a reference to Christ</strong> on the cross as the "prince of the covenant"— swept away, along with an overwhelming army of others, through a process of judicial murder, on falsified charges of disloyalty to Caesar. cf-- See John 18:28-40; 19:12-16.</p><p>Peter in his preaching emphasized that Jesus, whom the Jews crucified, was the Messiah. In early Christian tradition, Dan 9:24-27 was generally held to be a Messianic prophecy. The pronoun often translated "<strong>he</strong>" in Dan 9:27.  "Since the Prince of the previous passage (vs. 26) is not a Roman prince . . . the '<strong>He</strong>' in this verse refers <strong>to the Messiah Prince, or Jesus Christ</strong> historically".  The antecedent of the pronoun "<strong><em>he</em></strong>," then, according to this argument, is the "Messiah, the Prince" of vs. 25..." </p><p>Gurney said, "<strong>It is highly probable that the '<em>he' of verse 27</em></strong><em> refers back to the ‘anointed one,</em> since He is the principal character in verse 26." Oh, it's Jesus! <strong>CM</strong></p><p><br /></p><p><strong>SOURCES:</strong></p><ul><li><strong><em>Jerome 's Commentary on Daniel</em></strong><em>. </em>trans. Gleason L. Archer, Jr. (Grand Rapids. MI: Baker Book House, 1958). 95-110</li><li>Otto Zockler. <strong><em>The Book o f the Prophet Daniel</em></strong><em>, </em>trans. James Strong. A Commentary- on the Holy Scriptures, vol 13 (New York: Scribner. Armstrong &amp; Co.. 1876). 205-17</li><li>Montgomery, <em>T</em><strong><em>he Book o f Daniel</em></strong><em>. </em>394-401</li><li>Robert M. Gurney, 1980). <strong>God in Control</strong> (Worthing: H. E. Walter. 1980)   pg 114</li></ul>]]>
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