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        <title>John 1:1 — Christian Debate</title>
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        <title>The Deity of Jesus:  &quot;The Logos was God&quot;</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 06:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Deity of Jesus is the center of all New Testament theology (or theologies). Why? Because "<strong>Jesus is God."</strong> It's in plain sight from Genesis to Revelation. <strong>Jesus</strong> is Co-equal, Co-creator, and Co-eternal with the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. There is no hiding, no shame. It's <strong>plain for all to see:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>John 1:1</strong></li><li><strong>John 1:18</strong></li><li><strong>John 20:28 </strong></li><li><strong>Rom. 9:5 </strong></li><li><strong>Col. 2:2 </strong></li><li><strong>Titus. 2:13</strong></li><li><strong>Heb. 1:8-9</strong></li><li><strong>2 Pet. 1:1 (See sources for others).</strong></li></ul><p>Out of these <strong>eight passages</strong>,<strong> three </strong>are found in John. <strong>Of these three</strong>, <strong>everyone acknowledges John 20:28 </strong>to be an unequivocal "<strong><em>deity-passage</em></strong><em>."</em> Even a skeptic, Taylor, couldn't help but call the texts above "<strong><em>one clear ascription of Deity to Christ</em></strong><em>."</em> What an acknowledgment this man gives in comparison to many professed Christian today.</p><p>Many tried to deny Jesus Christ was God incarnate. Their failure is equivalent to a man denying he was born. He may not know his birthday, but he can't deny his existence (see Hicks, Green; especially, Green's essay, "<strong>Jesus in the New Testament</strong>").</p><p>Read your Bible, the sources (below) to stimulate your thoughts, and add to the conversation in declaring the absolute <strong>Deity of Jesus: "The Logos was God." </strong>It's a treasure trove of biblical truth. <strong>CM</strong></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><strong>SOURCES:</strong></p><ul><li>John Hick, ed. <strong><em>The Myth </em>of <em>God Incarnate,</em></strong><em> </em>(Philadelphia: Westminster Press, 1977). </li><li>Michael Green. ed, <strong><em>The Truth </em>of <em>God Incarnate</em></strong><em>,</em> (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans, 1977) 17ff.</li><li>Rudolf Bultmann "<em>The Christological Confession of the World Council of Churches</em>", <strong><em>Essays Philosophical and Theological</em></strong><em>, </em>tr. James C. G. Greig (New York: Macmillan, 1955), 273ff.</li><li>Vincent Taylor "<em>Does the New Testament Call Jesus "God"?</em>", <strong><em>Expository Times,</em></strong><em> </em>73 (1961-62), 116ff.).</li><li>Raymond Brown "<em>Does the New Testament Call Jesus "God"?</em>", <strong><em>Theological Studies</em></strong><em>, </em>26 (1955), 545ff.). </li><li>Oscar Cullmann, <strong><em>The Christology </em>of <em>the New Testament,</em></strong><em> </em>rev. ed., tr. Shirley C. Guthrie and Charles A. M. Hall (Philadelphia: Westminster Press, 1963), Ch. 11. </li><li>A. W. Wainwright,<em> "The Confession "Jesus Is God" in the New Testament",</em> <strong><em>Scottish Journal of Theology,</em></strong><em> </em>10 (1957), 274ff. </li><li>Ethelbert Stauffer, "<em>Christ as </em><strong><em>Theos </em></strong><em>in Early Christianity</em>", in <strong><em>Theological Dictionary </em>of <em>the New Testament</em></strong><em>, </em>ed. Gerhard Kittel and Gerhard Friedrich, tr. and ed. Geoffrey W. Bromiley (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans, 1964-76), III, 104ff., and </li><li>Johannes Schneider's contribution, "<em>Christ as God</em>",' in <strong>The New Interternation Dictionary of the New Testament</strong><em>, </em>ed. Lothar Coenen, et. al., tr. and ed. Colin Brown (Exeter, England: Paternoster Press, 1975-78), 11, 80ff.</li></ul>]]>
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        <title>Imagine if John 1:1 was rendered correctly...</title>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2022 00:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>There were times when Jesus answered his enemies and they left him without a response because they recognized his answer was 'the truth'.  Who could argue against him?   Those who recognized his teachings as truth had a choice to make.  Do I humble myself and become a follower of Jesus Christ or do I choose to become an enemy of Christ and scatter his followers? Many are the latter!</p><p>Imagine if John 1:1 was rendered correctly... and the Public got to see that there is only one Bible in the World that read, "<strong>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was the Son of God.</strong>"  Who could argue against Jesus being the Son of God? Imagine the lives that could be saved. </p><p>The argument that Jesus is God or a god would no longer be the center of controversy.  Even trinitarians who deny Jesus' divinity as the Christ could not argue against Jesus being the Son of God.  Sometimes, when it comes to saving lives, a person needs to hear the ring of truth. That truth is <strong>and the Word of God was the Son of God.</strong>  The one chosen by God and sent to rescue humankind.  </p><p>Notice Jesus response to his enemies:</p><ul><li>do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because <strong>I</strong> said, ‘<strong>I am God’s Son</strong>’? (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/john/10/#v43010036" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">John 10:36</a>)</li></ul><p>The scriptures are clear that Elohim can be rendered God or (gods) in referring to angels. Angels are spirit creatures that are sons of the true God. <em>ʼ</em><a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001729#:~:text=Hebrew%20Terms.%20Among,plural" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><em>Elo·himʹ</em></a> is used in the Scriptures with reference to Jehovah himself, to angels, to idol gods (singular and plural), and to men.</p><p>In the Book of John, he uses two Greek terms to differentiate the difference between Almighty God and his Son.  <em>Theon is used to refer to Almighty God as </em><strong><em>the God </em></strong><em>and theos when referring to his Son as </em><strong><em>a god</em></strong><em>.</em></p><ul><li><em>In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with </em><strong><em>the God </em></strong><em>(theon) and the Word was </em><strong><em>a god</em></strong><em> (theos).</em></li><li><em>No man has seen </em><strong><em>the God</em></strong><em> (theon) at any time; the </em><strong><em>only-begotten</em></strong><em> </em><strong><em>god</em></strong><em> (theos) who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him.</em></li><li><em>This means everlasting life, their coming to know You, </em><strong><em>the only true God</em></strong><em> (theon), and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.</em></li><li><em>Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and Your Father and to </em><strong><em>My God</em></strong><em> (theon) and </em><strong><em>Your God</em></strong><em> (theon).’”</em></li><li><em>Jesus is never called (theon) which refers to Almighty God. </em></li></ul><p>With that being said, many will reject these facts. Imagine someday opening your Bible and for the first time, reading the following scriptures:</p><ul><li>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was the Son of God.</li><li>Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations in my name,</li><li>For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Angel of Great Counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him. </li></ul><p>Wouldn't these<em> </em><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/experiences/sharing-truth/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><em>Bible truths</em></a><em> </em>bring the many to Salvation? </p><ul><li>"Do your utmost to present yourself approved to God, a workman with nothing to be ashamed of, handling the word of the truth aright." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-timothy/2/#v55002015" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Timothy 2:15</a>)</li><li>"Therefore, if someone knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/james/4/#v59004017" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">James 4:17</a>)</li></ul>]]>
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        <title>The Hidden Treasure of John 1:1</title>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2021 09:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Brother Rando</dc:creator>
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<p>The truth about John 1:1 has been long hidden from the masses. Why is learning this scripture vital to your spiritual health? Because words matter! In Greek there are two different words for God. Also, using a definite article emphasizes the subject spoken about. First instance is <em>ton theon</em> which means <strong><em>the God</em></strong> and the second instance is <em>theos</em> which means <strong><em>a god</em></strong>.</p><p>How does John 1:1 read with a literal translation?</p><p>“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with <strong><em>the God</em></strong>, and <strong><em>a god</em></strong> was the Word.”</p><p>Jesus is never referred to as the theon because Jesus was begotten and came into existence. Therefore, the Apostle John used the nominative title theos which means a god referring to the Word’s divinity and godlike qualities.</p><ul><li>1975 “and a god (or, <strong><em>of a divine kind</em></strong>) was the Word” – Das Evangelium nach Johnnes, by Siegfried Schulz, Göttingen, Germany</li><li>1978: “and <strong><em>godlike sort</em></strong> was the Logos” – Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider, Berlin</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.brorando.com/post/the-hidden-treasure-of-john-1-1" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>Free eBook...</strong></a></p>]]>
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