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        <title>Jehovah the bible — Christian Debate</title>
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        <title>God's Name Found in the Greek Scriptures under θεόν (theon).</title>
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<p>Imagine opening the Bible, and of all sudden, like a bolt of lightning, being instantly stuck with the Manifestation of God's Holy Name in the New Testament!</p><p>The Greek language contains two Greek titles for God.  The first title is <strong>θεόν </strong>(theon) and it refers to 'the God" as Supreme One or Self-Existent One. The second Greek title <strong>θεός </strong>(theos) can apply to God, a god, or gods and is shared with many. But <strong>θεόν </strong>(theon) refers to only to the True God as in (John 17:3).  <strong>θεόν </strong>(theon) is a superlative title given to Jehovah alone. </p><p>According to the Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon. It mentions that later Hebrews, for some centuries before the time of Christ, either Misled by False Interpretation of certain laws, or else following some old superstition. Then goes on to tell us, that every time the later Hebrews came upon the Name of God, they substituted Lord. They also pointed out that <strong>θεόν </strong>was in reference to God's Name.  </p><div>
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<p>So let's try to insert our newly found information and see if it holds true. </p><ul><li>"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Jehovah, and the Word was a god."(John 1:1)</li><li>No man has seen Jehovah at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him. (John 1:18)</li></ul><p>Here are a few notable scriptures with the superlative title <strong>θεόν </strong>(theon) :</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/text/john/14-1.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>John 14:1</strong></a><strong> </strong><a href="https://biblehub.com/abbrev.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>N-AMS</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">GRK:</a> εἰς τὸν <strong>θεόν</strong> καὶ εἰς</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/nas/john/14.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">NAS:</a> believe <em>in God,</em> believe</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/kjvs/john/14.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">KJV:</a> ye believe in <em>God,</em> believe also</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14-1.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">INT:</a> on <em>God</em> also on</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/text/john/17-3.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>John 17:3</strong></a><strong> </strong><a href="https://biblehub.com/abbrev.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>N-AMS</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/17.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">GRK:</a> μόνον ἀληθινὸν <strong>θεὸν</strong> καὶ ὃν</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/nas/john/17.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">NAS:</a> true <em>God,</em> and Jesus</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/kjvs/john/17.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">KJV:</a> the only true <em>God,</em> and Jesus</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/17-3.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">INT:</a> only true <em>God</em> and whom</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/text/john/20-17.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>John 20:17</strong></a><strong> </strong><a href="https://biblehub.com/abbrev.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>N-AMS</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/20.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">GRK:</a> ὑμῶν καὶ <strong>θεόν</strong> μου καὶ</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/nas/john/20.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">NAS:</a> and your Father, <em>and My God</em> and your God.'</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/kjvs/john/20.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">KJV:</a> and [to] my <em>God,</em> and your</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/20-17.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">INT:</a> of you and <em>God</em> of me and</p><p><br /></p><p>Inserting God's Name doesn't flow smoothly in all 148 Greek occurrences. For example, in John 17:3 inserting the meaning of the title <strong>θεόν </strong>(theon) not only fits, but gives deeper understanding.</p><ul><li>This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true Supreme One, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.</li><li>This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true Self-Existent One, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.</li></ul><p>Then again, the quote from Jesus Christ invoking the title <strong>θεόν </strong>in (John 14:1)</p><ul><li>Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in Jehovah; exercise faith also in me.</li></ul><p><br /></p>]]>
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        <title>Who is Jehovah?</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2022 23:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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</div><p>Jehovah is God’s unique name as revealed in the Bible. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/exodus/3/#v2003015" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Exodus 3:​15; Psalm 83:18</a>) It comes from a Hebrew verb that means “to become,” and a number of scholars suggest that the name means “He Causes to Become.” </p>]]>
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        <title>Depressed? Don't Give up! There is More to Life!</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 03:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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</div><p>The Bible tells us, "<strong>Jehovah is close to the brokenhearted; He saves those who are crushed in spirit.</strong>" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/psalms/34/#v19034018" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Pslams 34:18</a>)  </p><p>Also, we have a helper in His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ whom states, "<strong>Come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you.</strong>" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/11/#v40011028" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Mat 11:28</a>)</p><p>Articles that may interest you:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201404/go-on-living-why/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Why Go On?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/help-community/saved-from-suicide/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Survive Depression</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-no2-2019-may-jun/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Is Life Worth Living?</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/awake-no1-2020-mar-apr/how-to-deal-with-stress/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">How to Deal With Stress</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/help-community/campaign-saved-lives-tabasco-mexico/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">A Campaign That Saved Lives</a></li></ul><h5><a href="https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>National Suicide Prevention Lifeline</strong></a><strong>  1 (800) 273-8255 </strong> </h5>]]>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2021 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Beautiful isn't it?  How do you react when seeing <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/draw-close/holy-god/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>God's Sacred and Holy Name</strong>?</a> Are you overcome with a wondrous and overwhelming awe?  If you were to enter into a Personal Relationship with someone whom you deemed special or important, what is the first thing you would want to know about that Person?  <a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1980085" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>What is Your Name?</strong></a></p><p>Think about it, how well could you build a <strong>personal and intimate relationship </strong>with someone if you don't even know their name?  The Bible states, "Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you indecisive ones." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/james/4/#v59004008" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">James 4:8</a>)  Notice it requires action on your part, <strong>first?  </strong>The Bible is like a mirror, it reflects your thoughts and inner person, the person you really are. "For the <strong>word </strong>of <strong>God </strong>is <strong>alive </strong>and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/hebrews/4/#v58004012" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Hebrews 4:12</a>)</p><p><strong>Question:  </strong>If you met someone you really like, and I mean you really want to get to know this person, the first thing you want to know is their name.  The second thing you want them to know is Your Name. Right?  Suppose that person doesn't care to want to know your name at all?  How would you Feel?  If you don't care to learn about Jehovah, then why should he care about you?  But he does care about you, more than you can ever imagine. Stop hurting him.</p><p>The proof <strong>that you do care</strong>, is that you are reading this article right now. Researching the Bible, reading the articles, learning, and yes, drawing closer to God. It's a process. Jesus Christ told his followers, "No man can come to me <strong>unless the Father</strong>, who sent me, <strong>draws him,</strong> and I will resurrect him on the last day." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/john/6/#v43006044" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">John 6:44</a>)  Jehovah sent his only begotten Son for you, even before you knew about God's Precious Name.  "For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/john/3/#v43003016" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">John 3:16</a>)  </p><p>Jehovah Witnesses are proud to bear the Name of the true God, <a href="https://www.brorando.com/post/jehovah-the-god-and-father-of-our-lord-jesus-christ-1-peter-1-3" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">JEHOVAH</a>.  "Symʹe·on has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations <strong>to take out of them a people for his name</strong>." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/acts/15/#v44015014" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Acts 15:14</a>)  “"I am the One who declared and saved and made known When there was no foreign god among you. So <strong>you are my witnesses, declares Jehovah, and I am God.</strong>" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/isaiah/43/#v23043012" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Isaiah 43:12</a>) </p><p>Slandering or belittling God's Sacred and Holy Name can be bring certain death for the abuser. "So the <strong>abuser of Jehovah’s name should be put to death without fail. </strong>The entire assembly should stone him without fail. The foreign resident should be put to death the same as the native for his <strong>abusing the Name.</strong>" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/leviticus/24/#v3024016" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Leviticus 24:16</a>)  </p><p>Here's where it really pays to study.  Satan is tricky, he tries to get people <a href="https://www.brorando.com/post/who-would-want-to-hide-god-s-name" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">from using God's Name altogether. </a> How? By removing God's Sacred and Holy Name from the Bible.  This act of not using God's Name is a grave and serious sin, a willful act. "<strong>They intend to make my people forget my name </strong>by the dreams they relate to one another, just as their fathers forgot my name because of Baʹal." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/jeremiah/23/#v24023027" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Jeremiah 23:27</a>)  The Hebrew word used in taking God's Name in vain can also mean 'emptiness' or 'void' as in making worthless, belittling, or something of little value or treat as ordinary.  </p><p>Rather, God's Name is a Protection.  "The <strong>name of Jehovah</strong> is a strong tower.  Into it<strong> the righteous one runs and receives protection.</strong>" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/proverbs/18/#v20018010" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Proverbs 18:10</a>) "At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. <em>And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name." (</em><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/malachi/3/#v39003016" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><em>Malachi 3:16)</em></a></p><p>"During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his <strong>godly fear</strong>." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/hebrews/5/#v58005007" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Hebrews 5:7</a>)</p>]]>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2021 23:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><strong>True Christians Have Restored God's Name to the Bible.</strong></p><p>Satan and his false religions have been hiding God’s Sacred Name for 3,500 years! “That <em>men</em> may know that thou, whose name alone <em>is</em> <strong>JEHOVAH</strong>, <em>art t</em>he most high over all the earth.” (<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-83-18/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Psalms 83:18 KJV</a>)  This scripture is not often referred to by the religious leaders of Christendom.  The scriptures go on to say, “Blessed <em>be</em> <strong>the God and Father</strong> of our Lord Jesus Christ” (<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Peter-1-3/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1 Peter 1:3 KJV</a>) The scriptures state what is necessary in order to be saved. “For if you publicly declare with your mouth that <strong>Jesus is Lord</strong>, and exercise faith in your heart that <strong>God raised him up from the dead, <em>you will be saved.</em></strong>” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/romans/10/#v45010009" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Romans 10:9</a>)  </p><p>Sadly, there are almost 2.8 Billion people on earth who believe in a false gospel of the trinity for salvation.  It never admits that “Jesus is Lord” nor does it make the claim that God raised Jesus up from the dead.  It promotes a false gospel of salvation.  “For many deceivers have gone out into the world, <strong>those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh</strong>. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/2-john/1/#v63001007" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 John 7</a>)   </p><p>The trinity is completely foreign to the Bible and can not be found in any of its’ passages. If you looked up the trinity doctrine, you would have to close the Bible and look into apostate books that have the man-made doctrine.  The three persons have no names.  It is a generic formula borrowed and copied from pagan religions.  Jesus Christ is completely absent from the trinity doctrine.  Will you accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior today? (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-peter/3/#v61003018" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Peter 3:18</a>)</p><p>Many Religions have removed God's Holy and Sacred Name claiming Jehovah is a made up Name. If that was true, then why leave names in the Bible that bear witness to the Name JEHOVAH, like Jesus, John, and Elijah along with many others??</p><ul><li>Jesus means 'Jehovah is Salvation'</li><li>John means 'Jehovah has been Gracious'</li><li>Elijah means 'My God is Jehovah'</li><li>Hallelujah means 'Praise Jah"  which is short for Jehovah</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-study/glossary/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">What Can the Bible Teach Us?</a>  To request a free home Bible Study click <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/free-bible-study/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">here</a>.</p>]]>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Book of Daniel is the angel Gabriel’s witness to Daniel about God’s Kingdom. Gabriel gives details about God’s Kingdom, what that Kingdom will do for mankind, and he witnesses about the coming Messiah and identifies to Daniel <strong>who the Ruler of God’s Kingdom would be.</strong></p><p>In the final Chapter of Daniel, Gabriel gives detailed information about the Ruler of God’s kingdom that would mark the End of the Gentile times.  At that time, “<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/1914-significant-year-bible-prophecy/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">the appointed times of the nations</a>” ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God’s heavenly King. <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/1914-significant-year-bible-prophecy/#footnote1" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">*</a>​—<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/psalms/2/#v19002001-v19002006" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Psalm 2:1-6; Daniel 7:13, 14</a>. The prophecy is detailed to Daniel in the following scripture from Gabriel. “During that time <strong>Miʹcha·el will stand up, the great prince</strong> who is standing in behalf of your people. And <strong>there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time.</strong> And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book.” (Daniel 12:1)</p><p>Yes in 1914, Michael the Great Prince stands up to begin Ruling as King of God’s Kingdom. Michael is the Mighty God in Isaiah 9:6, the Prince of Peace, the Angel of Great Counsel who is Wisdom in Proverbs 8. Michael is the one Philippians spoken of has being given the Name. “Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human. More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake” (Philippians 2:5-8)</p><p>For this very reason, <strong>God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name</strong> that is above every other name, <strong>so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend</strong>—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground— and <strong>every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. </strong>(Philippians 2:9-11)</p><p><a href="https://jehovahwitnessqhub.wordpress.com/2018/04/26/is-jesus-christ-michael-the-archangel/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Read more...</a></p>]]>
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