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        <title>Jehovah’s Witnesses — Christian Debate</title>
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        <title>What Could Be the Main Difference between Jews and Jehovah’s Witnesses?</title>
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        <title>Are You Prepared to Lose Your Social Benefits?</title>
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<p>Many Countries offer Social Benefits to their citizens to give them a helping hand. These Benefits were meant to be given for a limited time. Those precious benefits will come to an abrupt end as <a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012681" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">the Political Kings of the earth </a>turn against the World of False Religion to confiscate and plunder her Wealth.</p><ul><li>Look! I am about to throw her into a sickbed, and those committing adultery with her <strong>into great tribulation</strong>, unless they repent of her deeds. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/2/#v66002022" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 2:22</a>)</li><li>And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/18/#v66018004" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 18:4</a>)</li><li>“And the kings of the earth who committed sexual immorality with her and lived with her in shameless luxury will weep and beat themselves in grief over her when they see the smoke from her burning. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/18/#v66018009" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 18:19</a>)</li></ul><p>The Wealth and goods obtained will be used to fund their armies and enforcers to do a house to house check to see if you and your family are bending your knees to <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/revelation-13-beast/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">the Wild Beast</a> in worship. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/13/#v66013004" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 13:4</a>) By the time of the Enforcement comes, your assets will have already been confiscated to weaken your resistance and your family members could be used as bargaining chips for your cooperation whether you are willing or unwilling. "Whoever seeks to keep his life safe will lose it, but whoever loses it will preserve it alive." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/luke/17/#v42017033" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Luke 17:33</a>)</p><p>The Bible points to who makes up the members of <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/ws20150515/gog-of-magog/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Gog of Magog</a>, and if you are uninformed, what is coming your way will make you shutter. The shock that will overcome you will be such a traumatic experience you will look for death but not able to find it. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/9/#v66009006" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 9:6</a>) If you have faith, it will severely be tested and if you have no faith, you will be swept away not knowing which way to turn like a caged wild animal.</p><p>Your Social Benefits will cease and be used to fund the Enforcement. Maybe your Health Benefit expires, then all of a sudden your food benefit. Your complex in <strong>not knowing what is going on</strong> and then your shelter benefit is removed. Maybe you are forcibly removed from your house for not paying your taxes. You can't buy or sell anything, your funds no longer exist that were in your bank account, all access is closed and you're locked out. The Bank will not respond or answer any questions. The government issues a notice if you have any cash to exchange it with the Wild Beast for pennies on the dollar. Those who have cash but refuse to exchange their cash will lose it because there will be a certain date of expiration on all currency in any form, including precious metals such as gold and silver. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/daniel/11/#v27011043" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Daniel 11:43</a>) No matter how much you have saved or stored up for yourself, you will lose it. If you worship any god other than the Wild Beast, you and your family will be thrown into the lion's pit sort to speak.</p><ul><li>All the royal officials, prefects, satraps, high royal officers, and governors have consulted together to establish a royal decree and to enforce a ban, that for 30 days whoever makes a petition to any god or man except to you, O king, should be thrown into the lions’ pit. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/daniel/6/#v27006007" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Daniel 6:7</a>)</li></ul><p>It won't matter what religion you are or even if you're an <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Athiest</a>. Worship the Wild Beast or start losing your family and friends one by one while you stand there motionless in shock as the life drains away from your loved ones. AS the members of Gog and Magog are gathered by the demonic forces to get ready for the Enforcement, there will be one people left. Those who are holding onto their integrity to the One True God which enrages Satan to Act:</p><ul><li>You will say: “I will invade the land of unprotected settlements. I will come against those living in security, without disturbance, all of them living in settlements unprotected by walls, bars, or gates.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/ezekiel/38/#v26038011" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Ezekiel 38:11</a>)</li></ul><p>According to Bible Prophecy, it is <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODBibleTeachings/pub-jwbcov_201505_11_VIDEO" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Jehovah's Anointed One</a> that will Destroy Gog of Magog for coming after his Named People. The scriptures give us insight and a warning regarding to listening to instruction from the two spies whom gave specific directions to Rahab. "You should gather your father, your mother, your brothers, and all your father’s household with you into the house. Then if anyone goes out the doors of your house into the open, his blood will be on his own head, and we will be free from guilt. But if harm comes to anyone who remains with you in the house, his blood will be on our heads." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/joshua/2/#v6002018-v6002019" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Joshua 2:18-19</a>)</p><p>Let the scripture interpret scripture. Compare the Spies instruction to Rahab to the following:</p><ul><li>Go, my people, enter your inner rooms, And shut your doors behind you. Hide yourself for a brief moment Until the wrath has passed by. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/isaiah/26/#v23026020" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Isaiah 6:20</a>)</li></ul><p>Rahab and her family were saved while those on the outside were destroyed. And sanctuary is promised to those who enter our congregations of inner rooms meaning they have a good standing with Jehovah. But notice the scripture that we often use for the great tribulation.</p><ul><li>Jehovah said to him: “Go through the city, through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who are sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that are being done in the city.” And to the others he said in my hearing: “Go through the city after him and strike. Do not let your eye feel sorry, and do not feel any compassion." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/ezekiel/9/#v26009004-v26009005" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Ezekiel 9:4-5</a>)</li></ul><p>The marking on the foreheads is the mark for survival. These ones keep on living through the great tribulation and enter into the new world as survivors known as <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-september-2019/great-crowd/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">the great crowd</a>. But notice it happens at a time of 'sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that are being done'. Also, notice <strong>where</strong> the slaughter of the wicked starts from?</p><ul><li>Old man, young man, virgin, little child, and women you should kill off completely. But<strong><em> do not go near to any man on whom there is the mark</em></strong><em>. </em><strong><em>You should start from my sanctuary.</em></strong><em> </em>So they started with the elders who were in front of the house. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/ezekiel/9/#v26009006" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Ezekiel 9:6</a>)</li></ul><p>Our current understanding of this scripture is that it occurs after the great tribulation begins which we believe is in the near future. So the term '<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/pure-worship/corruption/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">My Sanctuary</a>' may need some refining as to the meaning. It certainly has to do with 'Pure Worship' and if that is the case then the Congregation of God would be 'My Sanctuary'. The Temple of God would be Jesus Christ and the 144,000. Also, the action of removing or the cutting off 'started with the elders who were in front of the house', those who willingly forsook the offering of worship services, and praise which began in 1919. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/13/#v40013037-v40013042" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 13:37-42</a>)</p><ul><li>Immediately after <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-timothy/3/#v55003001" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">the tribulation of those days</a>, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/24/#v40024029" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 24:29</a>)</li><li>Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, <strong>so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things</strong>. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/13/#v40013040" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 13:40</a>)</li></ul><p>Allow the scripture to guide you. There are two meanings, one, is in the literal sense after the period of the Last Days has ended which is coming to a conclusion now or second, it is Spiritual and happening at the Beginning of the Last Days in 1914. After all, an Arabic rendering applies to a Ruler being removed from their office of Rulership is that <em>'</em><strong><em>his heaven has fallen</em></strong><em>'</em> which happened to Satan being hurled out of the Heavens in 1914 which the World rejects today. Not to mention that Charles Taze Russell gave us divine warning that <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/daniel/12/#v27012001" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Daniel 12:1</a> would undergo fulfillment in 1914 as the End of the Gentile times.</p><p>Indication and scripture points to 1914 and the Beginning as to 'My Sanctuary' started with the elders who were in front of the house in 1919! The elders in this sense were Unfaithful Brothers who rejected the Presence of Christ and became apostates to turn others away from the organization of the Faithful and Discreet Slave. The Book of Matthew continues, "Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and <strong>all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief</strong>, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/24/#v40024030" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 24:30</a>)</p><p>Again two meanings, if literal it would occur after the Last Days have concluded. But if Spiritual, the prophecy began unfolding in 1919. Why? Aren't <strong>all the tribes of the earth beating themselves in grief </strong>today? Don't Jehovah's Witnesses grieve today because of the three horsemen? Not only does the World grieve the three horsemen, but do they not shun the Rider of the fourth horse whose <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/19/#v66019013" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Name is the Word of God</a>? (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/3/#v66003020" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 3:20</a>)</p><p>Wake Up O Sleeper! It's very interesting when scripture reveals itself how people become so stubborn. "The sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood <strong>Before</strong> the coming of the great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/joel/2/#v29002031" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Joel 2:31</a>) Immediately after <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-timothy/3/#v55003001" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">the tribulation of those days</a>, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/24/#v40024029" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 24:29</a>) And there will occur <strong>a time of distress such as has not occurred since</strong> there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/daniel/12/#v27012001" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Daniel 12:1</a>) 1914 or a future date? To claim we have not entered into a time of distress such as has not occurred since is to deny Prophecy. The Last Days of Satan's System of things do not go on forever, they do and will come to their End!</p><ul><li>“Go subduing<strong> in the midst of your enemies</strong>.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/psalms/110/#v19110001-v19110002" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Psalm 110:1- 2</a>) Those enemies are not instantly destroyed but are bundled up to die a permanent death like that of Adam and Eve. The fiery furnace is symbolic speech for everlasting death.</li></ul><p>For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, <strong>so the PRESENCE of the Son of man will Be. </strong>(<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/24/#v40024038-v40024039" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 24:38-39</a>) It's Spiritual.... otherwise you would have no need to prove yourself ready.</p><ul><li>On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/Reasoning-From-the-Scriptures/Return-of-Christ/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">the Son of man is coming</a> at an hour that you do not think to be it. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/24/#v40024044" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 24:44</a>)</li><li>Three Phases of <a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1954447#:~:text=30%2C%20NW.-,PRESENCE%2C%20MANIFESTATION%2C%20REVELATION,would%20accomplish%20deliverance%20for%20them%20far%20beyond%20their%20own%20private%20expectations.,-FIXING%20THE%20RESPONSIBILITY" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Christ' Presence</a></li><li>“As for me and my household, we shall serve Jehovah.” (<a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/bc/r1/lp-e/201987362/0/0" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Joshua 24:14-15</a>)</li></ul><p>If you like Bible Based Videos please watch some @ <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/categories/VODBibleTeachings" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Bible Teachings</a></p>]]>
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        <title>What is so special about the decade of the 2030's?</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2024 02:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>The Ruler of this World will have reached his <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pinnacle#:~:text=3,or%20achievement%20%3A" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Pinnacle</a> to have his Nations united in cause to spew mankind's <a href="https://sdgs.un.org/2030agenda" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Biggest Lie of Propaganda</a> that the world has ever heard.</p><p>Satan has offered these nations of  his kingdom/governments to Jesus Christ some 2,000 years ago, if only Jesus would simply do an act of worship towards him. </p><p>What was Jesus' response to Satan? Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/4/#v40004010" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matt 4:10</a>)</p><p>The Bible calls Jesus Christ the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God at (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/3/#v66003014" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 3:14</a>). Ever since <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/ebtv/world-changed-since-1914/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1914</a> the Bible informs mankind, "Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/12/#v66012012" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 12:12</a>) Satan has been gathering the nations and desperately trying to unite them ever since <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODMinistryImproveSkills/pub-jwbkm_201410_1_VIDEO" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1914</a>. Even though all the earthly nations are under Satan's Rule, they are still fragmented and at war with one another to gain possession of land, riches, wealth, and influence over other competing nations. <strong>Very soon these same nations will turn in a blink of an eye from fighting to declaring peace with one another.</strong> At that very moment one could apply these prophecies:</p><ul><li>Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/22/#v66022011" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 22:11</a>)</li><li> Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you.  For you yourselves know very well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. <strong>Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape.</strong> (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/1-thessalonians/5/#v52005001-v52005003" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1 Thess 5:1-3</a>)</li><li>All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/25/#v40025032" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 25:32</a>)</li></ul><p>The following 'timed events' are fulfilments of various prophecies that reveal the Son of Man's Presence. But (many) will not see. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/24/#v40024037" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 24:37</a>)</p><ul><li>2030</li><li>2033</li><li>2034</li><li>2039</li></ul><p>When these 'timed events' come and go, then those who are remaining to be sifted and sorted will begin to say, "Where is this promised presence of his?" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-peter/3/#v61003004" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Peter 3:4</a>)  For the vision is yet for its appointed time, And it is rushing toward its end, and it will not lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it! For it will without fail come true. It will not be late! (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/habakkuk/2/#v35002003" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Habakkuk 2:3</a>)</p><p>Would you like to learn more about the Bible and its precious truths it holds for you?  This is Your Personal Invitation as Jesus Christ is gathering the things in heaven and upon the earth.</p><h5><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">JW.org  </a></h5><p><br /></p>]]>
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        <title>Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #6</title>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2023 16:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>After these <em>things</em> I heard <em>something</em> like the loud sound of a great crowd in heaven saying, “<strong>Hallelujah! </strong>Salvation and glory and power belong to our God," (Rev 19:1 LEB)</p><ul><li>Trinitarians falsely proclaim that God has No Name</li><li>Trinitarians falsely proclaim that God's Name cannot be found in the Greek or NT</li><li>Jesus' Name when translated means 'Jehovah is Our Righteousness'</li><li>John's Name when translated means 'Jehovah has been Gracious'</li><li>Matthew's Name when translated means "Gift of Jehovah'</li></ul><div>
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<p><br /></p><p>So they are many Names that Have Jehovah in them in the Greek! Jesus - John - Matthew - to list a few. </p><p><strong>The divine name appears in its abbreviated form in the </strong><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/appendix-a/divine-name-christian-greek-scriptures/#:~:text=The%20divine%20name%20appears,means%20%E2%80%9CJehovah%20Is%20Salvation.%E2%80%9D" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>Christian Greek Scriptures</strong></a><strong>.</strong> At <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/19/#v66019001" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Revelation 19:1, 3, 4, 6</a>, the divine name is embedded in the word “Hallelujah.” This comes from a Hebrew expression that literally means “Praise Jah.” “Jah” is a contraction of the name Jehovah. Many names used in the Christian Greek Scriptures were derived from the divine name. In fact, reference works explain that Jesus’ own name means “Jehovah Is Salvation.”</p>]]>
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        <title>Would you like to know the truth?</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2023 15:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>For almost two thousand years, false religion have kept 'the truth' hidden from the many and now are losing their battle against the Lamb! True Christians are on the march in this dark world, allowing 'the truth' to shine forth. Jesus Christ shared with his followers, "People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/5/#v40005015" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 5:15</a>) </p><p>Christendom's Bible Scholars are among the most dishonest individuals on earth. They have been hiding 'the truth' from the many and now since the light is exposing them, they run to the mountains begging, "Fall over us and hide u<strong>s</strong> from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb," (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/6/#v66006016" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 6:16</a>)</p><p>There are Superlative titles that apply to the one true God Jehovah and <strong>Jehovah alone. </strong></p><ul><li>Adonay</li><li>Theon</li></ul><p>Adonay in Hebrew Script is spelled <strong>אֲדֹנָי</strong> and was used in replacing <strong>יהוה</strong> the four Hebrew letters usually transliterated YHWH or JHVH that form the Biblical Proper Name of God.  Yahweh or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Jehovah</a>.  The title Adonay has Superlative meaning and which it only applies to the Supreme One or Self-Existent One.  Jehovah alone is most high and there is no other.  </p><ul><li>May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/psalms/83/#v19083018" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Psalms 83:18</a>) </li><li>You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/isaiah/43/#v23043010" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Isaiah 43:10</a>)</li></ul><p>Adonay and Aăḏōwn spelled <strong>אֲד֖וֹן </strong>were used but then watered down by trinitarian translators using non-superlative titles such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism#Adonai" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Adonai</a> ("My Lord") or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Elohim</a> (literally means 'gods' but treated as singular when meaning "God") in prayer, or<strong> </strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism#HaShem" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">HaShem</a> ("The Name") in everyday speech.  A popular expression containing this phrase is <em>Baruch HaShem</em>, meaning "Thank <a href="https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jehovah" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">God</a>" (literally meaning "<em>Blessed or Praised be the Name</em>") as in "<strong>Praised be the God and Father</strong> of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,"  (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/1-peter/1/#:~:text=Praised%20be%20the%20God%20and%20Father" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1 Peter 1:3</a>) <em>Adonai </em>and <em>Elohim</em> are non-superlative titles and often applied to angels and men and are not exclusive. Moses himself was called <em>elohim or the Greek term theos</em>.</p><p>The Greek term (theon) spelled θεόν is also a Superlative title referring to the one true God Jehovah and <strong>Jehovah alone. </strong>It occurs 148 times in the NT Greek Scriptures.  When finding θεόν in a Greek scripture, one can replace it with Jehovah for a deeper understanding of God's Word. </p><ul><li>"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Jehovah, and the Word was a god."(John 1:1)</li><li>No man has seen Jehovah at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him. (John 1:18)</li></ul><p>Many other scriptures you can look up yourself if you would like to. Here's another example:</p><p>Englishman's Concordance</p><p><strong>θεόν (theon) — 148 Occurrences</strong></p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/text/matthew/4-7.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>Matthew 4:7</strong></a><strong> </strong><a href="https://biblehub.com/abbrev.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>N-AMS</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/4.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">GRK:</a> Κύριον τὸν <strong>θεόν</strong> σου</p><p><a href="https://biblehub.com/nas/matthew/4.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">NAS:</a> THE LORD <em>YOUR GOD</em> TO THE TEST.'</p><ul><li>Jesus said to him: “<strong>Again it is written:</strong> ‘You must not put <strong>Jehovah your God to the test.</strong> (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/4/#v40004007" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Mathew 4:7</a>)  Notice Jesus quotes the Hebrew OT with God's Name in it which under inspiration states “You must not put <strong>Jehovah your God to the test </strong>the way you put him to the test at Massah." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/deuteronomy/6/#v5006016" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Deuteronomy 6:16</a>) Also, another reference to God's Name in Greek Scriptures is @ <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/luke/4/#v42004012" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Lu 4:12.</a> </li></ul><p>The second Greek word for God is (theos) spelled <strong>θεός </strong>in Greek. This title is non-superlative and can be applied to Jehovah, Jesus Christ, angels, men, and idols alike.  In prayer, Jesus invokes the Superlative title <strong>θεόν (theon) </strong>to his Father by stating, "You, the only true God" at  (<a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/int/43/17#s=3&amp;study=discover" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">John 17:3</a>)  Jesus Christ is never referred to <strong>θεόν (theon).  </strong>Therefore, when Jesus Christ stated, "the Father is Greater than I am" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/john/14/#v43014028" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">John 14:28</a>) Jesus was stating an absolute truth. </p><p>I hope this Biblical Information helps you to break free from amongst the false religions that has entangled humankind with such hatred against one another.  Religion will soon be Destroyed.  And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “<strong>Get out of her, my people, </strong>if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of <strong>her</strong> plagues." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/18/#v66018004" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 18:4</a>)</p><p>This is Your RSVP invitation to learn the peace of mind you so richly deserve in this God Forsaken World.  The term "<strong>RSVP</strong>" comes from the French expression répondez s'il vous plaît, meaning "please respond." Once, you learn 'the truth' freedom is at your front door! "So if the Son sets you free, you will be truly free." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/john/8/#v43008036" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">John8:36</a>)</p><ul><li>Select a Topic That Interests You</li><li>View encouraging Videos for yourself and your children</li><li>Read the Bible Online</li><li>Get Current Updates to Worldwide Events</li><li>Get Answers to those nagging questions</li><li>Visit <a href="http://jw.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">JW.org</a> anytime from anywhere</li></ul><h2></h2><h2>Don't give up, You have a reason to keep on living...</h2><p>Articles that may interest you:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201404/go-on-living-why/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Why Go On?</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/help-community/saved-from-suicide/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Survive Depression</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-no2-2019-may-jun/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Is Life Worth Living?</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/awake-no1-2020-mar-apr/how-to-deal-with-stress/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">How to Deal With Stress</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/help-community/campaign-saved-lives-tabasco-mexico/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">A Campaign That Saved Lives</a></li></ul><h2><a href="https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">National Suicide Prevention Lifeline</a>  1 (800) 273-8255  </h2><p><br /></p>]]>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2023 03:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Bible Questions</category>
        <dc:creator>Brother Rando</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>“And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and <strong>death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:</strong> and <strong>they were judged every man according to their works.</strong>” (<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-20-13/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 20:13</a>)</p><p>My Story</p><p><a href="https://jehovahwitnessqhub.wordpress.com/2017/08/09/what-is-it-like-to-die/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">What is it like to die?</a></p><p>I first learned about death through a Bible Study. <strong>After learning the truth about death and that death is the last enemy that will be conquered,</strong> I wanted to learn more. Here’s a few scriptures that may give you some Relief and Comfort.</p><p>“For the living know that they will die, but <strong>the dead know nothing at all</strong>, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/ecclesiastes/9/#v21009005" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Ecclesiastes 9:5</a>)</p><p><strong>My Catholic upbringing always taught me that hell was an eternal place of torment and inescapable.</strong> This religious teaching never sat well with me. I could never figure out why the God of Love would do such a thing.</p><p>Then at my Bible Study, I came across this scripture, “hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.” (<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-20-13/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 20:13</a>) This blew my mind because it connected the dots for me.<strong> See, the priests would take money from the parishioners to pray for their dead loved ones, telling us this might get them out of hell.</strong> All the while, preaching that hell is ETERNAL. Did they know something I didn’t, I wondered? This was nothing but a ponzi scheme.</p><p>Other scriptures that gave me Relief and Comfort is the good news about the Resurrection. “And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that <strong>there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous</strong>.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/acts/24/#v44024015" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Acts 24:15</a>) I was elated to learn this about my loved ones that have passed in death.</p><p>Then Jesus Christ told his followers, “Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/john/5/#v43005028" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">John 5:28</a>)</p>]]>
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        <title>Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?</title>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2022 05:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Brother Rando</dc:creator>
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<p><br /></p><p>                     Is not wisdom calling out? Is not discernment raising its voice? (Proverbs 8:1)</p><p><br /></p><p>The Last Days at (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-peter/3/#v61003003" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Peter 3:3</a>) and (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-timothy/3/#v55003001" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Timothy 3:1</a>) as far as timing goes, have different beginnings and lengths of time that will culminate into a simultaneous ending on <a href="https://www.brorando.com/post/2034-and-its-significance" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2034. </a> </p><p>The timing of the last days in Second Peter are expained in the entire third chapter. However, allow me to show you the specific scripture that points to the timing of a day. "However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that <strong>one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years</strong> and <strong>a thousand years as one day</strong>." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-peter/3/#v61003008" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Peter 3:8</a>) </p><p>Supportive Scripture</p><ul><li>Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and <strong>in three days I will raise it up</strong>.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/john/2/#v43002019" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">John 2:19</a>)</li><li>"Now you are <strong>Christ’s</strong> <strong>body</strong>, and each of you individually is a <strong>member</strong>." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/1-corinthians/12/#v46012027" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1 Cor 12:27</a>)</li><li>"Do you not know that <strong>you yourselves are God’s temple </strong>and that the spirit of God dwells in you? (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/1-corinthians/3/#v46003016" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1 Corinthians 3:16</a>)  </li><li>'He will revive us <strong>after two days. On the third day</strong> he will raise us up, And we will live before him." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/hosea/6/#v28006002" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Hosea 6:2</a>)  <a href="https://www.brorando.com/post/the-sealing-of-the-144-000-is-at-hand" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Pentecost 33 CE + 2,000 yrs = 2033. </a> Third day begins <a href="https://www.brorando.com/post/2034-and-its-significance" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2034.</a> </li></ul><p>When this <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/ephesians/1/#v49001008-v49001010" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">allotted time limit</a> comes to its' conclusion, it will appear that NOTHING has changed and that Jehovah's Day is Delaying. </p><p>Supportive Scripture</p><ul><li>"First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his?" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-peter/3/#v61003003-v61003004" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Peter 3:3</a>)</li><li>"For the vision is yet for <strong>its appointed time</strong>, And it is rushing toward its end, and it will not lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it! For it will without fail come true. It will not be late!" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/habakkuk/2/#v35002003" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Habakkuk 2:3</a>)</li><li>But <strong>Jehovah’s day will come as a thief</strong>, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be exposed." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-peter/3/#v61003010" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Peter 3:10</a>)  It's Spiritual. Let the reader use discernment!</li><li>"You, therefore, beloved ones,<strong> having this advance knowledge, be on your guard</strong> so that you may not be led astray with them by the error of the lawless people and fall from your own steadfastness." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-peter/3/#v61003017" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Peter 3:17</a>)</li></ul><p><br /></p><p>Now the Last Days in <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-timothy/3/#v55003001-v55003005" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Second Timothy chapter three verses 1-5</a> talks about how ungodly people will progress from bad to worse.  This time period was alloted to begin from the timing of an end of an age called the End of Gentile times.  This would usher in an “<a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1954881" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">age of violence</a>”.  Jesus stated over and over that this time period would be like that Days of Noah.</p><p>Over 100 years ago, on January 1914, Charles T Russell, wrote about the End of the Gentile Times.  The worldly nations would no longer rule over mankind unfettered but would be marked for destruction. "Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has <strong>a short period of time.</strong>" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/12/#v66012012" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 12:12</a>) </p><p>In reference to the event that would mark the End of the Gentile Times, Brother Russell wrote: "'<strong>The Earth Abideth Foreve</strong>r' Christ will not return to Earth as a Man - Present Year Believed to Mark Great Change of Dispensation, but World May not discern Immediate Difference." <strong>The Bible Students Monthly</strong>, January, 1914.</p><p>Since Christ will not return to Earth as a Man, Brother Russell wrote: "Our Lord, in describing His Second Presence, clearly indicated that it would be <strong>unnoticed by the world</strong> until the cataclysm of trouble should come. Thus He likened the earlier days of His presence to <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/genesis/6/#v1006003" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">that period before the Flood</a>, when the world, unconscious of the impending catastrophe, continued to build, eat and drink as usual, and knew not. So, says the Master, it will be in the end of this Age. Eating, drinking, building, planting and marrying will proceed as usual; and the world will not know that they are in the <strong>PRESENCE of the Son of Man.</strong>"</p><p>International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914.  Although Russell himself did not think <strong>the time of trouble </strong>would be this long, he did allow that it could be. <strong>It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034)</strong>, but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."  </p><p>As far back as 1880 the <em>Watchtower</em> magazine declared that <a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1954881#:~:text=But%20now%2C%20how,the%20end%E2%80%9D%20began" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1914 would mark the end of the “Gentile times.” </a> Better times are head of us <strong>when the age of violence is brought to its' end. </strong></p>]]>
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        <title>Jesus prayed to His Heavenly Father, Let Your Name Be Sanctified</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2022 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Brother Rando</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Jesus prayed, “Our Father in the Heavens, <strong>Let your Name Be Sanctified</strong>” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/6/#v40006009" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 6:9</a>) “Praised be <a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-83-18/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc"><strong>the God and Father</strong></a> of our Lord Jesus Christ,” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/1-peter/1/#v60001003" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1 Peter 1:3</a>)</p><p>“I am sending an<strong> angel</strong> ahead of you to guard you <strong>on the way</strong> and to bring you <strong>into the place that I have prepared.</strong>  <em>Pay attention to him, and obey his voice.</em> <strong>Do not rebel against him</strong>, for <em>he will not pardon your transgressions</em>, because <strong>my name is in him</strong>.” (<a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/l/r1/lp-e?q=Exodus+23%3A20-21" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Exodus 23:20-21</a>)</p><ul><li>Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must <strong>listen</strong> to <strong>him. </strong>(<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/deuteronomy/18/#v5018015" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Deuteronomy 18:15</a>)</li><li>While he was still speaking, look! a bright cloud overshadowed them, and look! a voice out of the cloud said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. <strong>Listen</strong> to <strong>him</strong>.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/17/#v40017005" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 17:5</a>)</li><li>Then a voice came out of the cloud, saying: “This is my Son, the one who has been chosen. <strong>Listen</strong> to <strong>him</strong>.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/luke/9/#v42009035" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Luke 9:35</a>)</li><li>My God will reject them, For they have not <strong>listened</strong> to <strong>him</strong>, And they will become fugitives among the nations. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/hosea/9/#v28009017" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Hosea 9:17</a>)</li><li>See that you do not refuse to <strong>listen</strong> to the one who is speaking. For if those who refused to <strong>listen</strong> to the one giving divine warning on earth did not escape, how much more will we not escape if we turn away from <strong>him</strong> who speaks from the heavens! (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/hebrews/12/#v58012025" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Hebrews 12:25</a>)</li><li>But all those <strong>listening</strong> to <strong>him</strong> were in constant amazement at his understanding and his answers. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/luke/2/#v42002047" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Luke 2:47</a>)</li></ul><p>Would you like to learn more about <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/online-lessons/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">the Bible</a> or about <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/request-a-visit/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Jehovah’s Witnesses?</a></p>]]>
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        <title>The New World Translation: A Trust-worthy &quot;Bible”?</title>
        <link>https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/979/the-new-world-translation-a-trust-worthy-bible</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Apologetics</category>
        <dc:creator>C Mc</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>CD Posters,</strong></p><p>As promised in another thread, I would give a closer look into a translation that one of the new posters frequently directs users of these forums. Many times, <a data-username="BroRando" data-userid="775" rel="nofollow" href="https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/profile/BroRando">@BroRando</a> supplied Bible texts lead one to Jehovah's Witnesses Bible entitled, "<strong><em>The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures</em></strong>." It was written and released in 1950 by members of the Society. Many in the religious and scholarly community deemed it to be <strong>a biased translation.</strong> It is believed the translators <strong>have added and altered many Bible texts to agree with the denominational teachings</strong>. Can it be verified or denied?</p><p>I stand to be corrected that in 1969,<strong> "The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures" came on the scene.</strong> It used the Greek text revised by Westcott and Hort and has the New World translation in its margin. This <strong>reveals many errors and contradictions, including words added and other mistranslations.</strong> The Greek text used is also questionable.</p><p>What's the quality of this "Bible"? Is it accurate to the Greek and Hebrew texts that other Bibles and Translations are based? What value does it bring to the religious world or the study of theology? Who were the men that compiled the <strong>NWT</strong>? Were they efficient proficient in the languages of Greek and Hebrew?</p><p>Eusebius, a follower of Origen,<strong> rejected the deity of Christ</strong> and claimed that <strong>Christ was a created being</strong>. A cursory reading of John 1:1 in the NWT appeared to have continued <strong>the "Arian heresy.</strong>" Is it just the NWT that maintains the Arian heresy that says Jesus is not God and that God is a pantheistic God, a God in everything?</p><p>Can we make a sober comparison of the NWT and other translations? After doing such, would you recommend its usage for mature biblical studies? <strong>CM</strong></p><p><strong>PS. </strong>May I encourage all to limit your comments to the NWT Text and its development to keep us focused?</p>]]>
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        <title>Who would want to hide God’s Name?</title>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2021 23:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Bible Questions</category>
        <dc:creator>Brother Rando</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.brorando.com/post/who-would-want-to-hide-god-s-name" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Who would want to hide God’s Name?</a><br /></p><div>
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<p><strong>True Christians Have Restored God's Name to the Bible.</strong></p><p>Satan and his false religions have been hiding God’s Sacred Name for 3,500 years! “That <em>men</em> may know that thou, whose name alone <em>is</em> <strong>JEHOVAH</strong>, <em>art t</em>he most high over all the earth.” (<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-83-18/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Psalms 83:18 KJV</a>)  This scripture is not often referred to by the religious leaders of Christendom.  The scriptures go on to say, “Blessed <em>be</em> <strong>the God and Father</strong> of our Lord Jesus Christ” (<a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Peter-1-3/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">1 Peter 1:3 KJV</a>) The scriptures state what is necessary in order to be saved. “For if you publicly declare with your mouth that <strong>Jesus is Lord</strong>, and exercise faith in your heart that <strong>God raised him up from the dead, <em>you will be saved.</em></strong>” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/romans/10/#v45010009" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Romans 10:9</a>)  </p><p>Sadly, there are almost 2.8 Billion people on earth who believe in a false gospel of the trinity for salvation.  It never admits that “Jesus is Lord” nor does it make the claim that God raised Jesus up from the dead.  It promotes a false gospel of salvation.  “For many deceivers have gone out into the world, <strong>those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh</strong>. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/2-john/1/#v63001007" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 John 7</a>)   </p><p>The trinity is completely foreign to the Bible and can not be found in any of its’ passages. If you looked up the trinity doctrine, you would have to close the Bible and look into apostate books that have the man-made doctrine.  The three persons have no names.  It is a generic formula borrowed and copied from pagan religions.  Jesus Christ is completely absent from the trinity doctrine.  Will you accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior today? (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-peter/3/#v61003018" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Peter 3:18</a>)</p><p>Many Religions have removed God's Holy and Sacred Name claiming Jehovah is a made up Name. If that was true, then why leave names in the Bible that bear witness to the Name JEHOVAH, like Jesus, John, and Elijah along with many others??</p><ul><li>Jesus means 'Jehovah is Salvation'</li><li>John means 'Jehovah has been Gracious'</li><li>Elijah means 'My God is Jehovah'</li><li>Hallelujah means 'Praise Jah"  which is short for Jehovah</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-study/glossary/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">What Can the Bible Teach Us?</a>  To request a free home Bible Study click <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/free-bible-study/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">here</a>.</p>]]>
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        <title>Pestilences... part of the Composite Sign of Jesus Christ Presence in Kingdom Glory.</title>
        <link>https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/1022/pestilences-part-of-the-composite-sign-of-jesus-christ-presence-in-kingdom-glory</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 17:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Apologetics</category>
        <dc:creator>Brother Rando</dc:creator>
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<p>After Jesus Christ summoned his 12 disciples and giving them authority to cure every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity, he revealed to them, "<strong>Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword.</strong>" (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/10/#v40010034" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 10:34</a>)</p><p>As distressing as pestilences are, they are part of the <a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2005721" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Composite Sign </a>of Jesus Christ Presence in Kingdom Glory.  (<a href="https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/bl/r1/lp-e?q=Luke%2021%3A10%2C%C2%A011" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Luke 21:10-11</a>)  So the pummeling of pestilences we SEE today, affect everyone living on the earth "Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and <em>all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief </em>because of him. Yes, Amen." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/1/#v66001007" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 1:7</a>) </p><p>Pestilences were often used in the past to execute divine judgment.  However, as the Last Days conclude to their end, the Pestilences and Plagues will no longer be directed against all the tribes of the earth.<em>  </em>Soon, the pestilences will only affect those who refuse to know Jehovah God and are disobedient to the good news of Jesus Christ. "This takes into account that it is righteous on <strong>God’s</strong> <strong>part</strong> to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you." (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/2-thessalonians/1/#v53001006" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 Thessalonians 1:6</a>) </p><p>This is <em>Really </em>Good News for the obedient and the faithful in rejoicing, for Jesus adds the words: “But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/luke/21/#v42021028" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Luke 21:28</a>)  </p><p>As new pestilence and plagues become a common place in this last hour of this system of things, Jehovah Witnesses look forward to the end of Satan's System of things.  These viruses are severely contagious which affect how we conduct our Bible Studies, the preaching work, and even Baptizing New Christian Believers. Such adjustments are welcomed and we look forward to <a href="https://www.brorando.com/post/paradise-will-it-come" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">a Bright Future</a> as this gloomy system of things come to its end. For those on the outside of our inner rooms, the wicked will soon be swallwwed up by the second death as they start dying off. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/22/#v66022015" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Rev 22:15</a>) </p><p>The removal of the wicked will be <strong>a day of relief </strong>for those who have the work of bearing witness of Jehovah and his Anointed One Jesus Christ. Therefore, as the last Days come to their end, there will be no need to witness to those dying off. Those who have God's Name on them will keep on living into Christ's Millinieal Reign where they will find exquisite delight. (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/psalms/37/#v19037010-v19037011" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Pslams 37:10-11</a>)</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Articles that may be of interest to you:</strong></p><p>What Is the Sign of “<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/end-times-prophecy-sign/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">the Last Days,” or “End Times</a>”?</p><ul><li>“The End”​—<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20150501/what-does-the-end-mean/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">What Does it Mean</a>?</li><li>A Book of Accurate Prophecy—<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201210/the-last-days/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Part 6</a></li><li>Many Will Survive the End​—<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20150501/how-to-survive-the-end/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">You Can Too</a></li><li>Protect Yourself <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/awake-no6-2016-december/protect-yourself-from-disease/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">From Disease</a></li><li>Jesus Saves​—<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/jesus-saves/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">How</a>?</li></ul><p><br /></p>]]>
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        <title>Can the trinity be trusted as a Biblical Teaching?</title>
        <link>https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/989/can-the-trinity-be-trusted-as-a-biblical-teaching</link>
        <pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2021 22:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Bible Questions</category>
        <dc:creator>Brother Rando</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<h4><a href="https://jehovahwitnessqhub.wordpress.com/2018/04/30/can-the-trinity-be-trusted-as-a-biblical-teaching/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Can the trinity be trusted as a Biblical Teaching?</a></h4><p><br /></p><p>The scriptures state what is necessary in order to be saved. “For if you publicly declare with your mouth that<strong> Jesus is Lord</strong>, and exercise faith in your heart<strong> that God raised him up from the dead</strong>, <strong>you will be saved</strong>.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/romans/10/#v45010009" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Romans 10:9</a>)</p><p>Sadly, there are almost 2.8 Billion people on earth who believe in a false gospel of the trinity. It <strong>never admits</strong> that “<strong>Jesus is Lord</strong>” nor does it <strong>make the claim that God raised Jesus up from the dead</strong>.</p><p>It promotes a false gospel of salvation and refuses to acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. “For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.” (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/2-john/1/#v63001007" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">2 John 7</a>)</p><p>If you looked up the trinity doctrine, you would have to close the Bible and look into apostate books that have the man-made doctrine from the Superfine Apostles that reject Jesus is ‘the Christ the son of the living God.’ (<a href="https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/16/#v40016016" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">Matthew 16:16</a>) The three persons have <strong>no names</strong>. It is a generic formula borrowed and copied from pagan religions. Jesus Christ is completely absent from the trinity doctrine.</p><p>To request a Free Non-Contact Home Bible Study click <a href="https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/free-bible-study/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">here</a>.</p>]]>
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