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        <title>creation — Christian Debate</title>
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        <title>Proverbs 8:  Creation Account</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2021 14:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>A Little Background:</strong></p><ol><li>Its human authors are referred to as King Solomon <em>(Prov. 1:1–9:18, 10:1–22:16, Proverbs 25–29).</em></li><li>Unidentified “wise men” from the ancient Near Eastern world <em>(Prov. 22:17–24:22, 24:23–34).</em></li><li>The non-Israelite Agur <em>(Prov. 30:1–33). </em></li><li>The book even acknowledges King Hezekiah’s editorial contributions <em>(Prov. 25:1).</em></li><li>The book of Proverbs is filled with practical and down-to-earth advice for daily living.</li><li><strong>The book of Proverbs is a witness to the wisdom that had been accumulated over generations. </strong></li><li>The book of Proverbs <em>is </em>the Word of God because it was under divine inspiration that the authors pulled their materials together.</li><li>In Proverbs, <strong>“wisdom”</strong> is revealed when you acknowledge the Lord “in all your ways” <em>(Prov. 3:6, NKJV); </em>that is, wisdom is living in faith and in obedience; it’s about what it means to be human before the God of Creation.</li></ol><p><strong>Chapter 8</strong></p><ol><li><strong>Proverbs 8, is one of four creation accounts</strong> in Scripture (Genesis 1, Genesis 2, Psalm 104). </li><li><strong>Proverbs 8</strong>, contains<strong> Personification</strong>: attributing human qualities to what is not human (e.g., "Lady Wisdom" and "Lady Folly" in <strong>Proverbs</strong> 8-9).</li><li>Proverbs 8 <strong>reveals a loving Godhead</strong> in intimate and joyous fellowship at Creation, and <strong>Christ</strong>, the Divine Wisdom, <strong>condescending to mediate (build a bridge) between the infinite Godhead and finite creatures</strong>.</li></ol><p><strong>For those who truly know:</strong></p><ol><li>Do the Hebrew <strong>verbs of Proverbs 8:22-25 refer to the birth of wisdom or wisdom's creation?</strong></li></ol><p><br /></p><p>PS: Help me mine the text not promote your bias or point of view. <strong>CM</strong></p>]]>
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        <title>Why did God create Satan?</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that the angels existed, and Satan and his demons fell before the creation of heaven and earth.<br />
Given the facts that there's no redemption for fallen angels, and God knew from the beginning that a third of his angels would fall, why did he create them in the first place? Or let them roam the earth instead of banishing them to hell right away?</p>

<p>Human sin is bad enough as it is, but through Satan's influence it becomes even worse.</p>

<p>My provisional understanding is that God uses Satan as a tool for salvation. If Satan had not entered Judas Iscariot (Luke 22:3), then Judas would not have betrayed Jesus, there would have been no crucifixion, and therefore no sacrifice for our sins.</p>

<p>But could God not have brought about Jesus' crucifixion in a different manner, without requiring Satan's " involuntary assistance"?</p>
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        <title>Truth Confirmed: We're All Related, Even if the time frame is off?</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2018 07:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<h1 data-id="we-re-all-related-how-whole-of-mankind-descends-from-one-couple-200-000-years-ago-modern-humans-descend-from-a-single-couple-who-mated-up-to-200-000-years-ago-scientists-have-claimed">We’re ALL related: How whole of mankind descends from ONE couple 200,000 years ago MODERN humans descend from a single couple who mated up to 200,000 years ago, scientists have claimed.</h1>

<p>By Laura O'Callaghan 17:36, Sat, Nov 24, 2018 | UPDATED: 21:45, Sat, Nov 24, 2018</p>

<p>Biologist creates code that can build DNA and send it online -- The stunning conclusion was reached by researchers who surveyed millions of genetic ‘bar codes’ of 100,000 different species - including humans - and believe that one particular union resulted in billions of humans being born through centuries. They say reproduction by the solitary pair who lived about 100,000 to 200,000 years ago happened after a catastrophic event which nearly wiped out the entire human race. Mark Stoeckle and David Thaler who led the study conducted by the Rockefeller University and the University of Basel arrived at the conclusion after examining mitochondrial DNA which mothers pass down from generation to generation.</p>

<p>This, the scientists claim, showed the “absence of human exceptionalism” and showed humans are actually “low to average in genetic diversity”.</p>

<p>Dr Stoeckle said: “One might have thought that, due to their high population numbers and wide geographic distribution, humans might have led to greater genetic diversity than other animal species.  He added:  “At a time when humans place so much emphasis on individual and group differences, maybe we should spend more time on the ways in which we resemble one another and the rest of the animal kingdom.”</p>

<p>Dr Stoeckle even claimed that despite humans being intrinsically different from animals, in terms of basic biology “we’re like the birds”.</p>

<p>The findings published in the report titled Human Evolution, are the latest revelations to emerge from the world of science and cast doubt on the previously-believed patterns of how humans evolved through the ages.</p>

<p>Dr Stoeckle and Dr Thaler believe that 90 percent of animal species alive today descend from parents that all began giving birth around the same time - less than 250,000 years ago. Dr Thaler said: “This conclusion is very surprising and I fought against it as hard as I could.”</p>

<p><a href="https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1049898/science-news-human-dna-animals-genetics" rel="nofollow">https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1049898/science-news-human-dna-animals-genetics</a></p>

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<p>You're free to question the time frame for believers in a "Young Earth" of creation, but <strong>the oneness of humanity is truly truth confirmed</strong>. We're all God's children. We're all one family?</p>

<p><strong>Jesus loves the little children<br />
All the children of the world<br />
Red, brown, yellow<br />
Black and white<br />
They are precious in His sight.<br />
Jesus loves the little children<br />
Of the world</strong>.</p>

<p><strong>Jesus died for all the children<br />
All the children of the world<br />
Red, brown, yellow<br />
Black and white<br />
They are precious in His sight.<br />
Jesus died for all the children<br />
Of the world...</strong>  Songwriters: Donna J. Krieger / George F. Root</p>

<h2 data-id="creation-and-reproduction-god-s-way-all-the-way-the-same-yet-differences-cm">Creation and reproduction, God's way, all the way! The same, yet, differences. CM</h2>
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        <title>&quot;Day&quot; in Genesis 1:5</title>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2018 21:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>How should we understand the word day in Genesis 1?  Let's focus on Genesis 1:5 for simplicity.</p>

<p>Should this only be understood as a literal 24-hour day, or should it be something else? Does science allow for a 24-hour day?</p>
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