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        <title>biblicalunitarian — Christian Debate</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2026 00:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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        <title>Is the Father God? How Anti-Trinitarian Arguments Prove too Much!</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Apologetics</category>
        <dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>According to Sam Shamoun, many anti-trinitarian arguments could be applied to prove that the Father is not God, in the same way as unitarians try to use them to prove that Christ is not God.</p>

<p><a href="https://answeringislam.net/authors/shamoun/is_father_god.html" rel="nofollow">https://answeringislam.net/authors/shamoun/is_father_god.html</a></p>

<p>In short:</p>

<ul><li>There is no explicit statement in the NT in which the Father claims to be God</li>
<li>OT quotes in the NT, in which YHWH speaks, are attributed to the Holy Spirit, not the Father</li>
<li>All NT passages that unitarians reject as referring to Jesus as God, in the same manner can be rejected as referring to the Father as God</li>
<li>For NT passages that identify the Father as God, we have passages that identify Jesus as God in a similar or the same way. Rejecting only one set of passages implies double standards</li>
</ul><p>Therefore, dear unitarian friends, is Sam right in his article, or can you actually make a case that the Father is God without reverting to double standards.</p>
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        <title>Do You Have to Believe in the Trinity to be Saved?</title>
        <link>https://christiandiscourse.net/index.php?p=/discussion/337/do-you-have-to-believe-in-the-trinity-to-be-saved</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Mitchell</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Disclaimer (PLEASE READ):</strong> <br /><strong>The posting of this video does not automatically equate to an endorsement of all the ideas expressed by the presenter John Schoenheit, nor of his fellowship and or affiliations. This video is posted for the purpose of eliciting reactions to the line of thought/argument reflected in the video.</strong></p>

<p><span data-youtube="youtube-ClFbGDAYRIg?autoplay=1"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClFbGDAYRIg"><img src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/ClFbGDAYRIg/0.jpg" width="640" height="385" border="0" alt="image" /></a></span></p>

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  <p>Romans 10:9-10 - "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."</p>
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